you are viewing a single comment's thread.

view the rest of the comments →

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

So, to say Hitler was a comparable zionist to the current modern right-wing revisionist Israeli Zionists in their ideology of which often leftist marxist Zionists make this comparison, is a red-herring.

[–]Questionable 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You can say that again!... And it still won't make any sense. Just so you are aware, you compared Hitler to three different conceptual factions, and called one of them a red herring, and made no definitive statement about any of them. Red herring to who? why do they say that? when do they say this?

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Zionist = emigrate Jewish diaspora to Palestine in its original meaning. Hitler believed Zionism to be a great Jewish ideology as he explained in Mein Kampf. This is understandable, considering he knew the only way to expel a large portion of Jews in a safe way out of Germany was through transfer camps via the Havaara agreement.

Immoral? Of course, without due process National socialists kicked out Jews from their home for simply being tied to a parasitic class of a small set of Jews in what they claimed to be a hereditary trait of all Jews. Not true! With them, the Rothschilds were arrested and expelled at ransom as well.

So, Zionism in its original meaning was defined as emigrating the Jewish diaspora to Palestine. It is clear then, that in Hitler's book, he never intended to create Israel or a Jewish state. And in old Dur Sturmer comics from the NS, reminiscent of BDS style comics, though I do not compare the ideology of BDS to the NS in anyway, the NS comics and art were quite nasty about what the Jewish emigration would do to Arabs living in Palestine and basically old them to watch out.

Leftist Zionists like Blumenthal, Chomsky, Norton, Tracey, Mate or even Bjerknes believe Hitler to be a Zionist and compare him to the right-wing revisionist Zionists we see in the Likudnik party led by Netanyahu. Begin from te Irgun would be a comparisiom.

They often tout they are Hitler in disguise. A generalization of mass proportions considering the ideology of Hitler was cery against the modern political form of revisionist Zionism currently in control of Israel. It isn't about emigrating Jews to Israel now, it is also about securing Israel and creating a Jewish ethnostate.

Marxist leaning Zionists that hold dearly the current pride they ha e in the ethnostate as it is but wish to see a new leader in Israel are those who exclaim that Hitler was a revisionist Zionist, like say Begin.

It doesn't help that Zionists for the most part came from the Pale of Settlement and had many socialist ideologies. Mossad had many connections to National Socialist members so evidently there would be a diconnect between Marxist even communist Zionists and right-wing Likudnik Zionists.

[–]Questionable 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Hmm... Alright, now that you've fully fleshed out that quagmire. May I ask you, what do you believe is happening in Israel with Netanyahu's corruption trial, and do the people support the current Israeli government.

[–]Jesus[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Certainly not every Israeli Jew in Israel or in the Jewish diaspora supports Netanyahu, although many do. And certainly Netanyahu is more than just corrupt. After all, he is a pupil of the Stern Gang and Irgun groups of which committed terror atrocities on their "enemies".

I do not support the Israeli government, period. Labour Zionism was at odds with the Likudnik revisionist Zionists of whom are presently in control of the ethnostate. Labour Zionist controlled ethnostate is just as corrupt and terroristic as the current party in control today.

I believe there should be zero foreign funding or aid to any foreign nations. That includes muslim countries. Charity on a personal non-profit or bussiness basis is fine but to issue money via the incorporated FED to be mortguaged on unborn US citizens is not what any of the founders intended, and certainly not Jefferson.

Leftist Zionists who many times will classify themselves as Marxists still have plenty of pride in Israel and its founding. If they are for a one state solution with full political rights for Palestinian Jews, Palestinian muslims and Christians than fine but they almost never are and always seem, at least the well-known alt-media journalists, to protect and disregard any wrongdoing of Israel on America or the west particularly when it comes to espionage and 9/11. Likewise, there are plenty of controlled opposition groups owned by Zionist Jews pretending to be for the rights of Palestinians and Christians when they are not.

They never talk about the fact that Christian missionary work in Israel, simply trying to convert a Jew gets you a prison sentence of one year!

Today, I'm seeing Jews and non-Jews exclaiming that thise who criticize Judaism or the ethnostate will have "blood on your hands," as useless_aether claimed I would.

What is clear is that Zionists are propagandizing that another genocide is in the making, more pogroms they fear and that all Jews should be very scared and provide their unconditional support for the current party in power.

Nobody, and not me, and no real Christian would hurt a fly, especially not a Jew but a Jew propagandized every day by Likudnik terrorists would not know that.

After all, the Likudniks and even Jack Ruby who admited that Israel killed JFK said that if the truth came out, there would be pogroms in America by tomorrow.

I cannot agree with this. Justice must be served via due process and that is something Zionist aligned government officials have all but thrown in the trash.