WayOfTheBern using reddit shadow banning on saidit

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[–]bucetao6969 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I feel like if shadowban is a thing only trusted users should be able to shadowban.

Or request an admin to shadowban a user.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

There are valid uses for shadowbanning. If it's used in bad faith that would be grounds for removing the sub from /s/all.

I REALLY don't like the idea of "trusted users". That's a recipe for a powermod cabal. Ruqqus didn't believe me that it started the downfall of both Digg and Reddit, so they tried it anyway. And guess what happened?

[–]bucetao6969 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

We technically already have trusted users. Moderators from default subs and admins.

Everyone already has the privilege of shadow bannig. My suggestion would be restricting even more to only mods the owner consider trusted.

[–]Vulptex 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There was a proposal to have all the admins coordinate, but it was shot down for the reasons I mentioned. Without that network it's difficult to form a secret society.

There is nothing of the sort for default mods. I'm wary of default subs too, but as it stands almost all of those mods have been admins for a long time and probably created those subs.

I don't want to see any special features or tools dished out to certain specific users or moderators. It is impossible for that not to turn into a favoritism contest. You can never fully elminate it, but I think it's been managed okay so far. It can't become a regular thing or corruption will escalate. The admins are all either founders or volunteers from a time when help was needed, it wasn't determined by membership in a certain clique of users. Also no admins except the owner can do basically anything except moderate spam, and occasionally deal with blatant rule violations. No banning subs either.

[–]Alphix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are quite right of course.