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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I remember when I was kid that Arkansas was a deep blue state, and now that I'm an adult it's deep red. We had a Democratic trifecta from 2008-2012, then almost immediately all the Democrats where voted out and it became a Republican trifecta — this was when the DP began doubling down on their identity politics and support of Wall Street.

I believe Conservatism is less about being left alone — that's Libertarianism — but rather about the preservation of our culture and way of life. A small federal government has always been a staple of American culture, but a lot of Conservatives support policies like protectionism and a strong national defense.

Furthermore, you have State's Rights Conservatives who believe the federal government should keep its hands off of most issues, but that the states should take some action.

The key difference between Liberalism and Conservatism, is how the government is used. The former seeks the utilize the government to enforce a moral code upon the plebs (political correctness), while the latter seeks only to do what is necessary for the preservation of the Nation (being the People).

The reason the former is associated with a large government, and the latter with a smaller one, is the very nature of theses ideologies: Liberalism's main goal is control, while Conservatism's main goal is protection. You don't have to control every aspect of someone's life to protect them, but you do if you want them to think a certain way.

A note: the Republican Party isn't a real Conservative party. They're more of a right-wing Liberal party pretending to care about Conservative issues.

[–]GConly 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Liberalism's main goal is control, while Conservatism's main goal is protection.

Succinctly put. I'd have gone with socialist not liberal though. I'm an old school liberal and those people are NOT liberal.

Once you show a conservative society isn't going to disintegrate by giving a minority equal treatment they'll normally back off the placard waving and accept the change.

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Neo-Liberalism is what I should've said. I don't like any form of Liberalism, but I shouldn't be lumping traditional liberals in with these Marxists. I could be friends with a traditional Liberal, but not a Neo-Liberal — because the latter seek to involve their political beliefs with every aspect of life, and enforce strict guidelines upon their tribe.

I don't think Socialism is appropriate, because it's more narrow than Neo-Liberalism: it requires the government to play a major role in the running of the economy. There are plenty of people who don't support left-wing economics, but support left-wing social policy, and these are the people best labelled as Neo-Liberals.

A big reason Conservatives are afraid of queerfolks, is because most of them are anti-culture: most of them scream at people for being white, call everything racist, want to abolish the police, legalize drugs, etc. They also want special privileges masquerading as equal rights.

I'm the opposite of that — I guess you could call me politically incorrect — which is why Conservatives find me much more tolerable than an SJW, and I could be considered a Conservative of sorts. I also adhere to most American (especially Southern) cultural norms; I'm quite the Nationalist.

A big rule everyone should follow is the Golden Rule, Matthew 7:12

So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.

This applies to everyone: straight, gay, cis, trans, religious, non-religious, etc. Even if you disagree with someone, you should treat them the same as you'd want them to treat you — even if they don't obey this rule theirself.

A lot of people on both sides ain't following this rule, and that's a major reason why we're so polarized and can't get no change.