49 killed in mass shooting at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand

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[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Interesting this NZ event and the pulse club shooting both had exactly 49 murders. Probably just a coincidence though.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Huh. The pulse shooting footage was laughable though. They used criminals for all the witnesses; they had robbery records, sexual assault, and other felony records. I'll have to wait and see about this one. How many were injured?? Also, in the vid would you not have seen the bullets impacting the wall, floor and etc. When bullets impact stuff it tends to kick up debri and shit, no?

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

The bodies are definitely being hit by the bullets, especially in the last half of the video that is obvious. But I do also find it weird the white walls have no blood spatter on them.

To me, one super weird part is at 13:14 in the video, after the shooting he is driving away, and shoots his own front windsheild 3 times but it does not break or crack or anything, but the gun is clearly going off. What is the deal with that? Then he turns and shoots his side window with the same gun and it explodes.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I don't know, they can fake things and make them look VERY, VERY real. The boston unbombing is one attack that worked well. Idk, some things in the video look very real, but there's a few thigns that just don't add up. I'll have to watch it again, though I do not want to.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I was super skeptical when I watched it, I really thought it was fake, that was my expectation until I got to the lady laying in the curb getting shot. I don't know how you would fake that, tbh. Then I re-watched the part after he had walked back in to the mosque and noticed all the blood pools I hadn't noticed before... I think it's real. The bullets clearly seem to be hitting the bodies, imo. I think it's very unlikely it's blanks and actors and fake blood. I watched it around 3 times when I typed up that summary, and the more I watched the more convinced I became that it was real. I really can't find any problems with it other than the windshield thing and I think I was just convinced about that, so I'm just going to go ahead and say 49 people definitely died. But I still think it was also likely orchestrated and they had agency help to so perfectly hit all these cultural and media trigger-points, even if that advice may have just come from a random internet 'friend'

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, seeing the lady on the curb was when I believed it to be real. In this video there's a clear difference between US Psyops like the Boston Bombing and shootings like the Fort Lauderdale shooting. Both of the latter narratives make zero sense and obviously have ulterior motives, such in the case of Fort Lauderdale having a shooting with a handgun in a FL airport days before legislation would be voted on to allow handguns in airports. In the US it is pretty obvious when they are drills passed off as real, very obvious. Duping delight and the emotional behavior also gives it away as does the many plot holes.

This shooting seems real but with many ulterior motives that all governments and media conglomerates can benefit from.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You just made me wonder if there were any drills going on beforehand, since that's such a common theme.

I think it's real, and the guys a right-wing psycho, but I simultaneously would not be surprised if some agency covertly helped him write his manifesto or guided him in some way

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's a video by Kearnsy74, who is banned now. That showed that nearly ALL the recent terrorist attacks and shootings all around the world since 9/11 but picking up around 2011 had drills for similar or the exact same scenarios happening just before, planned just after or happening simultaneously near where the events took place.

The reasoning might be to cover up any mishaps if it goes terribly wrong. They can then pass it off as a drill. Not sure though.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

There are rubber bullets and bullets that do cause damage or welts but do not kill. It looks real though, but yes, the windsheild was very odd.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Someone has kind of convinced me that the front windshields are engineered not to explode when shot, and instead to allow the bullets to pass through and punch out a hole. So maybe it just punched out a hole that we can't see because of the video quality. That's kind of what I'm leaning towards now

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Okay, makes sense then. It looks real to me, more authentic and gut turning than any of the footage I've seen from U.S. Psyops.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yeah I remember the Charlie Hebdo video, the shooter was shooting the ground next to the person very obviously and not hitting the person and then walking away. But this... those people got shot IRL. I have very little doubt left about that after combing through things today with a fine-toothed comb.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Have you seen the video of the funeral and Charlie Hebdo staff. They were laughing hysterically.

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=iV2XluPiG20

And yeah the video where the guy got shot on the sidewalk in the Charlie Hebbo video was, indeed fake. And proves that if they faked that, then likely that entire event was a ruse. Looks nothing like the NZ shooting video, though.

If TPTB do have a hand in these events, then there's no doubt that they can fake entire events, with crisis management corporations, moulage and aliases as well as conduct real false flags and kill many innocent people in the process either directly, or by hiring operatives. In the former case, they are more artful, in that they can paint the narrative however they want and continue to push it via hired crisis management actors and criminals, because they use criminals all the damn time. No, lawsuits either with fake events. Real events are very messy but they serve the same purpsoe and engender a lot more fear.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

And yeah the video where the guy got shot on the sidewalk in the Charlie Hebbo video was, indeed fake. And proves that if they faked that, then likely that entire event was a ruse. Looks nothing like the NZ shooting video, though.

Agreed.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And with many of these PSYOPs, why would they go to the trouble of hiring actors and having a whole slew of local, state, and federal officials lie their asses off, and secure total media complicity...

AND THEN actually shoot people, prompting families to demand real answers? That's why it's much more convient in the US and LEGAL MIND YOU to pass drills off as real.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also, there's been a lot of NZ shooting haox videos lately from 153news. It doesn't matter to me but I personally know from experience that that site is a honeypot with so many privacy implications, IF you sign up on it. Also, MartinTimothy has like A LOT of alt-accounts now.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Another key component of this narrative.

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1106753455274840064

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

49 killed, 53 wounded in pulse shooting. Plus 1 death for the shooter.

The wiki for the NZ incident says this: The attacks killed 49 people and injured at least 48 others.

I guess we'll have to wait for the dust to settle a bit before getting the final numbers.