Trump's Ukraine peace plan.

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[–]Hematomato 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The word "appeasement" springs immediately to mind.

[–]Dune1032[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

No, because Russia would have suffered heavy losses in men and equipment without gaining any new land. You have to be realistic and offer something which will save face for Putin.

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

But the plan is for them to gain new land. The Donbas, plus formal ownership of Crimea.

And then on top of that, to give Putin something he wants even more: an assurance that Ukraine will never be allowed to join NATO.

[–]Dune1032[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes, but the land would be land Russia occupied before the invasion. Ukraine would not be permitted to join NATO, but the UN would be obligated to defend Ukraine if Russia invades again.

[–]Hematomato 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Russia occupied Crimea before the invasion, but not the Donbas. That was taken during the invasion.

[–]Dune1032[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Then Russia will not be permitted to occupy the Donbas. You are thinking of Trump's plan not mine. Remember in my plan Russia only is permitted to occupy land it seized before the invasion.