Dutch Government Gives Luxury Cruise Ship to Illegal Migrants While Native Citizens Struggle to Pay Heating Bills

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

The definition which you shared did not use the word "politically", did it?

It said: "provide evidence demonstrating either that they have suffered persecution on account of a protected ground"

Maybe you are unfamiliar with the terms 'persecuted' and 'protected ground'

Oxford dictionary, "persecution" - hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs.

On 'account of protected ground' would refer to someone being denied their political rights due to discrimination

Protected Grounds means race, religious beliefs, colour, gender, physical or mental disability, age, ancestry, place of origin, marital status, source of income, family status or sexual orientation or any form of discrimination

https://www.lawinsider.com/dictionary/protected-grounds

Yeah the political persecution of: being wanted for raping a woman...

Prosecutors dropped the charges after the alleged victime recanted, he is no longer being charged with this, but still facing extradition

Or the political persecution of: being ejected from your host's embassy because you can't keep to the agreement...

He isn't facing extradition and prison for being a bad house guest either

Or the political persecution of: threatening suicide in prison and getting put on suicide watch...

Or this

Or the political persecution of: assisting his sources in hacking the US government instead of just saying "I'm only a journalist but HMU if you find something"...

You mean the whistleblowing that exposed the governments crimes against US citizens, while the poeple who committeed those crimes are still walking free...? But yeah lets lock up the whistleblower instead. I guess they should have waited for the government to confess.

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

There are seven grounds of discrimination covered by the law prohibiting discrimination

Ok but just reminding you that you said "political persecution" and now you're walking it back to - religious persecution, ethnic persecution, etc.

Now try and walk back the claim that 0 of these 2 million people you named, are really persecuted.

that exposed the governments crimes against US citizens? I guess they should have waited for the government to confess

None of the consequences that Assange faces are political persecution. Everything that happened to him is because he's a dick who broke the law.

You mean the whistleblowing

I mean that time when someone was hacking the US government and Assange provided live online step by step assistance. Yeah that time. The time he did the criminal things which he's being extradited for - not persecuted, but facing the consequences of his actions

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Ok but just reminding you that you said "political persecution" and now you're walking it back to - religious persecution, ethnic persecution, etc.

These are all types of persecution relating to being denied ones political rights, which makes them in need of asylum from political persecution. These migrants are largely fleeing gang violence and poverty, which does not qualify one for political asylum

Now try and walk back the claim that 0 of these 2 million people you named, are really persecuted.

No the number isnt zero, but it is definitely a minority of asylees that have legitimate cases, do you really think the reason for this migration isnt drug cartel violence and poverty? I do think we have a responsibility for the condition these countries are in, as our foreign policy has contributed to this, but immigration is a real problem, and open borders arent an answer

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

isnt drug cartel violence

Huh now that's starting to sound like persecution

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

isnt drug cartel violence

Huh now that's starting to sound like persecution

It isn't. "Persecution of protected grounds" has to involve discrimination based on a legally protected status

[–]Site_rly_sux 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Dude do you think you've found some legal loophole? That one paragraph you found is the totality of the law, and you've decided how Federal policy should change according to that paragraph of text you found. Incredible

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Dude do you think you've found some legal loophole? That one paragraph you found is the totality of the law, and you've decided how Federal policy should change according to that paragraph of text you found.

Loophole? These are literally just the definitions of the words. There is a difference between an asylee and a refugee, which is what you are describing. A refugee can be fleeing natural disaster, indiscriminate violence, or poverty, none of which are valid asylum cases per the law. I am sorry definitions seem so complicated to you