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[–]Zapped 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Evolution of the symbol for reference?

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    [–]Zapped 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    Thanks. So, that symbol as the armed forces for Ukraine goes back all the way to 1917 and predates the NAZI or neo-NAZI movement.

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      [–]raven9[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Yes exactly. Zelenski damn sure knows that symbol is associated with the Third Reich Nazis especially as his country is notororious for its neo-nazi paramilitaries and their persecution of ethnic Russian speaking Ukranians and in fact Putin even cited that as one of the reasons for the current military action so there is no excusing his wearing such symbolism by claiming it used to mean something else 100 years ago. What it means now is what counts and everyone knows what that is.

      [–]jet199 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Nice try, but Germany actually reintroduced the iron cross quite a few years back.

      https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/germanys-iron-cross-a-new-symbol-of-hope/

      [–]Rob3122 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      The swastika used to be a symbol of peace worn by all types of people before the judai turned it into a hate symbol.

      [–]OrionBlastar 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      [–]StillLessons 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Symbols are always contextual. What a symbol means depends upon the particular place and time where it is used. Given the obvious influence in western Ukraine of proud and open neo-nazis (they don't have any desire to hide their ideology), to believe this is other than the nazi usage of this symbol is a stretch too far.

      [–]jet199 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      So a literal cross is now a nazi symbol.

      Good luck in the future, christians.