Russian forces seize airport near Ukraine's capital Kyiv: Report

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[–]BravoVictor 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Don't worry folks. Russia is just bringing them freedom and liberty. They'll be welcomed as liberators!

[–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

This is actually a true non-sarcastic statement for the super-easternmost parts of Russia, in the Donbas region. According to about 50% of the people living there.

However, Russia has apparently decided to take the whole country, and about 80% of Ukraine is against that. If Russia had actually constrained their activities to the Donbas region, they might actually have been welcomed as liberators. But now they've clearly overstepped and are the aggressors.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

50% ain't particularly good.

[–]BravoVictor 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You may be right. Reporting's so bad, and there's so much propaganda, it's hard to know how most Ukrainians feel.

When I saw that NBC was pushing pro-war propaganda, about how Kiev was training women and children to fight Russia, I knew this was a bullshit war. Who the fuck sends kids and old women to fight a modern military? That's what evil people do. That's what fucking Hitler did rather then surrender to the allies. And what idiot at NBC thought that would look like a good depiction of what the average Ukrainian feels?

And then we find out the people conducting the "training" turn out to be actual neo-Nazis, who the US has been funding and giving weapons to for the last 8 years. Oops...

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Can you post the links to those articles from which you're getting those figures?

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

https://acting-man.com/blog/media/2014/03/2010-election-details.jpg

https://www.abc.net.au/cm/lb/5297958/data/ukraine-ethnic-divide-data.png

https://i2.wp.com/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/68/Russians_Ukraine_2001.PNG/640px-Russians_Ukraine_2001.PNG

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't remember the point I was going to make.

1) (acting-man.com) The Donbas region voted for Yanukovych.

Viktor Fedorovych Yanukovych is a Ukrainian politician who served as the fourth president of Ukraine from 2010 until he was removed from office in the 2014 Ukrainian Revolution.

  • Take the percentage of every major region in Donbas and divide by 5:

    (75 + 60 + 90 + 80 + 70) / 5 = ~75%

2) (abc.com) Percentage of population which speaks Russian natively (Donbas region), from 2010:

  • Take every percentage from the Donbas region and divide by 5:

    (50 + 50 + 50 + 70 + 95) / 5 = +/-63% (more or less 63%)

3) (i2.wp.com) Percentage in the Donbas region of ethnic Russians from 2001:

  • Take every percentage from the Donbas region and divide by 5:

    (25.6 + 39.0 + 38.2 + 24.7 + 17.6) / 5 = 29.02%

[–]Zapped 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There is a report that Ukraine has retaken it.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/ukraine-says-forces-regained-control-of-airport-taken-by-russians