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[–]muad_dib 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

What are everyone's thoughts on the wall? Personally, I believe it is a waste of time and money. It will be hard to build, and will be a blight on some pristine desert landscape. Beyond my opinions, however, it does nothing to stop those here illegally because they stayed after their visa expired, who constitute a significant portion of current illegal residents. Also, I was raised in a small farming community in the central valley of California. Our agricultural system is heavily dependent on immigrant labor, of which many are undocumented. We can certainly change that system, but as of yet have not taken steps to do so. The loss of willing laborers will mean even more small and mid sized farms will be outed and taken over by large farming corporations that have the capital to mechanize, and are in bed with our good friends Mon$anto. Thoughts? Edit: on mobile at work, will link supporting articles when I can Edit2: visa overstay farm labor

[–]Vaxthrul[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You'd think with all the jokes pertaining to Cubans emmigrating through the use of various pieces of floating debris that the idea of traveling by water pretty much defeats the purpose of a wall.

That being said, this keeps from making things "easy" of those immigrating to the states, while not really combating the problem.

The silicon types would hope that automation takes over for those undocumented workers, which is the path that we seem to be headed down. The real problem isn't how will the industry react, but will the reaction (automation) also be met with supplying those displaced with new economic means to continue progressing.

[–]muad_dib 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The newsweek article is pretty solid. I believe the wall will accomplish the same thing that the TSA does; essentially nothing but makes people feel safer, which is certainly a dangerous mindset to be instilling in our population.

[–]Vaxthrul[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because I don’t respect therapy, Because I’m a scientist. Because I invent, transform and destroy for a living and when I don’t like something about the world, I change it. And I don’t think going to a rented office in a strip mall to listen to an agent of averageness explain which words mean which feelings has ever helped anyone do anything. I think it’s helped a lot of people get comfortable and stop panicking, which is a state of mind [burp] we value in the animals we eat, but not something I want for myself. I’m not a cow. I’m a pickle – when I feel like it. So… you asked.

Rick and Morty, emphasis mine.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly, not to mention a beefy handout to whatever Israeli company is manufacturing the wall. It's the sort of contract that probably just made someone somewhere in to a billionaire.