If you're wondering whether the advancing Russian troops in Ukraine will inflict reprisals on the Ukrainian population -- they certainly will!

submitted by jerryk from self.WayOfTheBern

This series on criminal activity and collaboration with the Nazis during WWII, and its consequences for those involved decades later in the USSR,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUm0BzsD5WM

"The Exterminator/Rat-Catcher"

current this year, 2024 in Russia, makes clear that the Ukrainians in Ukraine will certainly pay a price for their rebellion against the Russians. Now that it appears fairly clear that NATO has tired of full scale support for the Ukrainians, the Russians know that they are going to win in Ukraine. They are advancing on all fronts, relatively unopposed, and are taking villages and towns relativity easily. There are no "game-changing" weapons good enough in the NATO arsenal to alter this self-evident fact. Fact is, NATO never had the slightest intention of engaging in a "war of attrition" against Russia for Ukraine. That would involve devoting most of their entire economies to this war, something their populations would never support in a million years. NATO was simply hoping that their engineers and scientists were so much better than the Russians, that for one or two percent of their GDP's they could defeat the Russians. Ain't a gonna happen! NATO scientists and engineers are simply con artists who couldn't design their way out of a paper bag, and the NATO weapons are no better than WWII era Soviet weapons.

So, what are the Russians going to do with the rebellious Ukrainians whose populations they annex as they systematically advance in Ukraine? Now, Josef Stalin would have taken a very simple and direct approach. He would simply "liquidate" all the police officers, all the senior civil servants and all the military officers. Nyet chelovek nyet problema -- no man, no problem! Kill all the potential leaders, no revolt is possible. This was his approach in Poland and the Baltics, for example. And, it really works!

Now, the fact is, it isn't really necessary to go this far, and, Vladimir Putin, being a reasonable man, certainly knows this. He doesn't need to exterminate 5% or more of the remaining Ukrainian population to get them under control. He probably does need to kill the actual leaders of militant Ukrainian groups responsible for terrorist activities -- i.e. "freedom fighting" -- within Russian territories, and, he will. He also is likely to systematically torture -- with no permanent debilitating effects -- the lower level members of these groups, to intimidate them into submission to Russian authority. So, lots of fingernails getting pulled out and electroshock torture for the men, lots of rapes of the ladies involved in actual fighting and killing. The same will likely apply to most of the actual members of the Ukrainian military, male or female.

So, on the whole, those involved in Ukraine in this rebellion against Russia do have a fair amount to fear from the advancing Russians. They probably won't be killed, in most cases, but, they have a pretty good chance of being tortured, I'd say, unless they were totally uninvolved in the opposition to the Russians. If I were Ukrainian and anti-Russian, at this stage, I'd get the Hell out of Ukraine, while I could. Just a suggestion, of course!

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[–]InumaGaming Socialist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So we're just supposed to listen to Inna Rassakova as a pretty face?

And where is your understanding of history when you ignore the Chechen war where the nation threw out the leaders trying to take people into a suicide mission of fighting with Russia?

Further, where is your understanding of Mariupol and how Ukraine was shelling the Donbas for eight years?

It's pretty ridiculous that you pretend to know so much about a country where you know so little about what occurred and get the first attractive female to say crazy things to you.

[–]kingsmegLiberté, égalité, fraternité 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Arrant nonsense, projection from a troubled mind.

We don't have to guess what Russia is going to do, we have the example of Chechnya, and now Mariupol and related cities in the Donbass and Crimea. As for the West of Ukraine where the population leans to psychopathic hatred of Russia, Putin is signaling that he doesn't want it.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I don't see the point of writing such nonsense, particularly this:

So, lots of fingernails getting pulled out and electroshock torture for the men, lots of rapes of the ladies involved in actual fighting and killing. The same will likely apply to most of the actual members of the Ukrainian military, male or female.

Ample evidence to refute your entire argument can be found in the way the Russians have treated POWs in this conflict, even the Nazis, who they've held separately with plans to put them on trial for war crimes. For which there's loads of evidence because of the proclivity of these sadists to post their egregious acts to Telegram.

[–]jerryk[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Only a small proportion of German POW's survived in Russian captivity during WWII, my friend. You don't really dispute this, do you? The Nuremberg trials are hardly representative of Soviet treatment of the Nazis, in general. Those were show trials.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

You do understand that Russia is not the Soviet Union, don't you, my friend?

[–]jerryk[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Sure. Putin's a reasonable man, I realize that. However, how do you control a highly violent and rebellious militant population like the Russians are going to find in Ukraine? Even reasonable people will resort to violence and torture if they have no other means to control a rebellious population. If you disagree with me, what do you propose will be Putin's solution? Have the Ukrainians and Russians play Shostakovich chamber music together?

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't know Putin or what he thinks or plans. Neither do you. It just seems odd to me that when you choose to speculate, it's in the direction you've taken. Maybe the problem is in the eye of the beholder, you do seem to get off on Stalin judging from your post history. No worries, do your thang, no one here is going to stop you though you'll likely get called out for what I consider a gratuitous bullshit take. BTW, that sarcastic remark at the end of your comment was pretty lame.

[–]3andfro 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agree with you down the line on the post and poster's comments. As you point out, in this free-speech zone, OP is welcome to post what he likes that doesn't violate rules, and all here are free to support, rebut, or ignore it.

[–]jerryk[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Hey, no one's forcing you to read my stuff, buddy! I like to speculate and analyze, something that's encouraged in the U.S., although not necessarily in most other countries.

[–]penelopepnortneyBecome ungovernable 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Go for it, no one is stopping you. But as a member here it's my prerogative to say you're full of it. That's also encouraged in the US.