According to a KFF poll, 70% of Democrats still plan to get the new, completely untested COVID-19 monovalent booster, compared to just 24% of Republicans | What will it take for these braindead partisans not to keep quintupling down on their previous idiotic medical choices?

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[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's called natural selection. I don't know why you keep trying to fight it, grab a popcorn and watch the madness unfold alongside us.

[–]hfxB0oyA 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A lot more sudden deaths and myocarditis, apparently.

[–]3andfro 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

Obligatory reminder:

The more vax and boosters you have, the higher your risk of COVID and adverse events. Cleveland Clinic researchers found that being fully dosed and boosted raises risk of getting C19 33%.

They conducted a retrospective study to try to identify clinical benefit from the bivalent C10 vaccine, tested only on a few mice. [most people don't know this] The study included 51,011 employees; 10,804 took the bivalent vaccine. The study found that C19 infection rates rise with every (non-bivalent) vaccine dose. medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.12.17.22283625v1.full.pdf

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

Would you say it's still a good idea to get the vax without the booster?

[–]3andfro 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

"Still"? I've had rational skepticism about the mRNA tech from the start. It only grew the more I saw other legit questions being asked and ignored or labeled to delegitimize them. So I'm a big no for mRNA vax and boosters. The more data analysis we see, the more that skepticism is borne out.

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ok but have you looked into the past vaccines? After your research? What do you think of them?

I would like you to think of someone during the pandemic, if them getting a specific vaccine was a good idea.

[–]3andfro 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A number of traditional vaccines against stable viral or bacterial agents are perfect, or nearly perfect, meaning they're ~100% effective at preventing the target disease, and they have a long record of safety.

mRNA products are dangerous, contaminated (https://www.spectator.com.au/2023/09/scientists-shocked-and-alarmed-at-whats-in-the-mrna-shots/), lied about, and inadequately tested for efficacy or safety.

I can't think of anyone for whom any COVID vaccine was beneficial. I know people with lasting negative impacts. Relatives with immune issues also, imo, shouldn't have had it and two have had likely vaccine-induced adverse reactions, one cardiac. So no. The claims about reducing the severity of illness and reducing hospitalization have no solid data. This is the kind of finding that emerges with time, without which no vaccines should have been rushed to market via truncated EUA for an illness that had a survival rate of roughly 99% (https://swprs.org/studies-on-covid-19-lethality/#age) except among the medically vulnerable, who weren't helped by the vaccine anyway. More than that, effective treatment regimens were suppressed. The EUA short-cut to market is available ONLY if no effective treatment (not prevention) is available.

From a recent analysis of COVID-19 vaccination effectiveness, published June 27, 2023 in the Journal of Vaccines & Vaccination:

All research that concluded that COVID-19 vaccines were successful and diminished mortality rates have used improper methodologies and have no support in the analysis of the basic statistical data which prove the mortality rate of vaccinated cohorts is higher than the mortality rate of unvaccinated cohorts. Clinical research is confirming that spike protein technology applied in COVID vaccines causes severe damage to human health. Its use on humans was premature and did not protect public health. The opposite was achieved. https://www.walshmedicalmedia.com/open-access/analysis-of-covid19-vaccination-effectiveness-120520.html

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

As someone who never got vaxxed, and to my knowledge, never got Covid, I'd say no. The original jabs were for a version of Covid that does not even exist anymore. Hell, the current booster is for an outdated variety of Covid.

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

Was it a good idea for people at that moment to get vaccinated?

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Maybe if you were over 70, or had a serious co-morbidity like diabetes. Otherwise, probably not. The actual jab, if you got one of the 50% that were actually live, did not do a good job at all at preventing or mitigating COVID.

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So what was its point anyway? Or just failed to do what it wanted to do?

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It was only effective for 3 months at best, and the virus would mutate too fast as well. Plenty of biologists and immunologists were saying that it was a fool's errand from the start.

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Plenty of biologists and immunologists were saying that it was a fool's errand from the star

What did these biologists suggest then?

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Joe Rogan Experience #1494 - Bret Weinstein

[–]stickdog[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

In my opinion, the only reason anyone should ever have taken a chance on totally new and completely untested mRNA "vaccine" platform and manufacturing process is that this person thought that getting COVID without any immune system boost would be a death sentence.

In other words, the benefit vs. risk profile was always negative for any healthy person under 75.

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

In other words, the benefit vs. risk profile was always negative for any healthy person under 75.

The woketards with their high obesety, mental illness and overall weakness took the vaccine to their benefit.

While the conservacucks with their gym habits, mental prowess and overall strength were more skeptical and didn't take the vaccine, also to their benefit.

In the end it worked then right? According to your benefit vs risk profile logic.

[–]3andfro 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The benefit:risk calculation is one traditionally left to doctors to discuss with their patients. In this case, that was overridden with heavy-handed sweeping mandates that were inappropriate then and now.

The vaccine has no proven benefit, despite frequent statements to the contrary. See my response to you above with a link to a study published in June.

Don't try to put a moral or political party spin on any of this. The world was lied to by governments and agencies that knew better. cui bono

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The benefit:risk calculation is one traditionally left to doctors to discuss with their patients. In this case, that was overridden with heavy-handed sweeping mandates that were inappropriate then and now.

Could these happen again?

[–]3andfro 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Are you training AI with these questions?

What do you think: "Could these happen again?"

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Are you training AI with these questions?

You could say I'm training my brain.

I'm trying to have a conversation here. If you genuinely believe I'm a bot just look at my history.

Ehh what can I say. Bots are so sophisticated these days.

[–]stickdog[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

LOL. Unfortunately, I know quite a few previously healthy people who have put on a quite a few years so to speak because of their devotion to their tribal marching orders.

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oh I know, that's why I called them conservacucks. They too are extreme, though I tolerate them a bit more since they at least know what they are. They aren't too keen on making everyone be on their side either.

[–]stickdog[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, I was talking more about the previously healthy Democrats I know who appear to have aged roughly 2 years for every single injection they have submitted to in order to remain members of their tribe in good standing over the last 2+ years.

[–]3andfro 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Dr. Kelly Victory: The new COVID-9 boosters are not safe, efficient or necessary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oev6T-Gp6z8&ab_channel=KUSINews YouTube (6 mins well spent)

[–]Super_Soviet_Gundam 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Upside, that's 70% less Democrats in the world.

[–]sdl5 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I kinda feel like even thinking that may bring Karma down on my head....

But OH IS IT HARD to not do so!

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I do remember the Covidiots saying the same thing about the unvaxxed, so there is a bit of schadenfreude there.

[–]kingsmegLiberté, égalité, fraternité 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

What will it take for these braindead partisans not to keep quintupling down on their previous idiotic medical choices?

Natural selection.

[–]3andfro 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Or an undeniable vaccine-induced serious adverse reaction.

[–]sdl5 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I quite literally watched my sister exhibit multiple severe vaxx symptoms a few weeks ago...

Massive pain and disruption of life and health...

On top of her longterm pre-existing immuno issues...

In which she described the timelines and such of new thing onsets, doctors not seeming to care to figure out why+ then added disgruntled that she was being careful, masking on the plane flights and airport, getting all the boosters, avoiding unvaxxed people...

Yet this shit kept happening after she was protected, damn it!

Clearly, particularly as she pushed very hard for me to drive down and stay over in her room to visit with her, she has blocked out knowing for a fact as of last October I have exactly ZERO of this shot...

So I simply asked questions, let her talk, tried to subtly lead her to thinking directly about the chain of events for the last 2.5 years.

No dots were even glimpsed, let alone seen and followed.

And yeah, she's a severe TDS Hillz Dem. 💁😐

[–]bucetao6969Im a guest here. Do not take my opinion as of a community member 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Still deniable ;)

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They'll use their last breath to condemn the denialists.

"I'm dying of something completely unrelated, you Trumper conspiracy theorist! And it could have been worse!"

[–]stickdog[S] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

If you are actually still considering getting yet another completely untested booster that does nothing to protect you from getting or transmitting COVID-19 even after you have gotten multiple vaccinations as well as multiple COVID infections in the past, why?

Note that all the data shows that the spike proteins that these vaccines instruct your cells to make keep circulating in the body months after vaccination in a significant plurality of recipients. This causes the body to treat the COVID virus as if it were an allergy, which results in an increased risk of infection. Every study that has examined the data shows that the more injections people get, the more likely it becomes that these individuals will get infected with COVID. So how many of these injections are you willing to line up for?

Are you really committing to get every new completely untested mRNA shot they come up with every few months for the rest of your life? Have you thought this through?

I am just trying to understand the remaining enthusiasm for these injections. Assuming that you are currently healthy enough that you are not scared of getting a cold or the flu, what is your rational argument for getting yet another spike protein manufacturing instruction injection?