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[–]3andfro 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pres. Nope to Change started the eye opening for me early in his 1st term. 2016 completed the process of seeing the decades-long chasm between D talk and D walk. Been unaffiliated since shortly before the 2016 DNC convention and expect to stay that way.

[–]shatabee5 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Obama primed me when he destroyed the progressive movement upon his election and revealed that he was just another shitlib.

I was a little bit ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Like, what were we supposed to do?!

Then came Bernie in 2016..... What the actual fuck. The DNC scumbags revealed themselves without reservation. Like, sure, 'this is fine', they get to destroy the democratic process, no big deal. And then the asshole himself becomes a shitlib Biden whore.

No more shoulder shrugging. It's a white-hot rage now.

[–]captainramen🇺🇸🛠️ MAGA Communist 🛠️🇺🇸 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Can't really say. If retro causality is real then maybe I time traveled from the future because we already won

Key moments

  • Working for a guy that listened to nothing but right wing talk radio. Used racist language, borderline JQ retard, but had working class roots and treated me like a son. Anti NAZI, anti Zionist, and anti 'Communist.' Ultimately a good guy. 3 months later 9/11 happened
  • My boss and I realizing in 2004-2005 that Iraq was a fucking mistake. Probably Afghanistan too
  • Hearing Michael Savage, by far the most entertaining of all the wignat am hosts, complaining about bums on welfare and saying if you're not an invalid you can do something. Exact words were: You don't work, you don't eat.* Based.
  • Boss works himself to death, new boss is an actual capitalist asshole and fucks me over
  • Years pass, move to EU. Live there for a decade. Not a good idea in retrospect
  • SMO starts, youtube algo sucks me down the nazbol vortex 🙄
  • Realizing Liberalism has no answers. All of the societal ills we see - the dustiness, the whoring, the drugs, the crime, all forms of anti social behavior - are a consequence of Liberal Democracy Enjoyers desperately clinging to power
  • Nord Stream 2 was the final nail

First boss was the prototype MAGA Communist. I miss that fucking asshole 🥲

*ARTICLE 12. In the U.S.S.R. work is a duty and a matter of honor for every able-bodied citizen, in accordance with the principle: "He who does not work, neither shall he eat." The principle applied in the U.S.S.R. is that of socialism : "From each according to his ability, to each according to his work."

[–]risistill me 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, you do wake up bit by bit.

Final straw for me?

A Democrat in the White House, an overwhelming majority in the US House and 60 Senators in the Dem Caucus (a filibuster proof majority) in the US Senate.

Please don't count the days there were 60 Senators.

First, everyone has a different count.

Second, Democrats knew well before the election that Ted Kennedy was dying and his hand picked successor took his place anyway.

Third, a bill can be passed in few days. https://old.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/v6sw1a/how_long_does_it_take_to_write_a_federal_bill_or/

Fourth, there were almost three months between election day and Inauguration Day. A bill could have been ready for a vote and Obama's signature if anyone actually wanted one passed.

Fifth, if we're talking only Obamacare, Conyers had been submitting a Medicare for All bill every session. Pelosi ensured that every one of them died in committee.

Sixth, I'm tired of excuses for acts and inactions of politicians that disadvantage most Americans, so just shut up.

On edit.Despite all the above, I was a nearly rabid supporter of Sanders during the 2016 primary season because I fell for the (I) and therefore did not see him as a Democrat. Well played, Senator.

[–]FreedomUltd 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It was a process. I don't remember any key moments before reading What Uncle Sam Really Wants, but I do remember that the book was eye opening in terms of the extent, not so much in terms of the way things are in general.

Gulf War I was different in that everyone was honest about it being a war, rather than calling it something else. I was around many people who were as against it as I was sure they would be. It didn't see anything much different as a result.

Clinton's Yugoslav warmongering was the first time I used the internet to deeply research what was really happening. I made a website organizing the most important sources into arguments against it from every angle. I remember that war as one that a lot of supposed liberals supported and believed the bullshit justifications for.

After W became president I listened to liberals speaking and thought they sounded like Gore being president was important to them, but counting all the votes and enacting the will of the people much less so. It was also memorable in terms of... wow people are just gonna move on and take even this.

0n 9/11 I saw liberals lose their fucking minds. I had magazine subscriptions to The Nation, Mother Jones and others, and saw them all succum to the fear and fall in to line. I found counterpunch at that time, and it was the only one that stuck to its principles in the aftermath.

2016 was the point at which I was done with Democrats forever. The big eye opener then was the Democrat's own 50 cent Internet army and the lnsultingly stupid horseshit they tried to gaslight us with. r/politics... fuck those assholes with sandpaper. They never got any better after that, even to this day. That was when I realized that people who call themselves Democrats and / or repeat blueanon propaganda are enemies every bit as much as true red Republicans, and every bit as evil.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Quebecois Secession Vote.

Followed by the GWB interview on a plane (election day, 2000) while seated next to his brother (Jeb!), the then Governor of Florida.
GWB was asked about NBC calling Florida for Gore earlier that afternoon, GWB smirked and said "Oh, I don't think so."

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Chronologically:

  • First: invasion of Iraq after 9/11 (holy hell, Republicans are shitty). The number of people we killed and keep killing in the Middle East turned me off of politics entirely at this point and I am ashamed to say, I went back to sleep for a number of years after this in disgust/numbness/whatever.

  • Second: Snowden revelations

  • Third: 2016 Dem primaries (wtf, my "side" is just as shitty?!). Now I just feel like whatever party in power is the overtly shitty side, and the party not in power is the controlled opposition.

  • Fourth: Covid. I generally trusted doctors until this point.

Honorable mentions: J6, Occupy, focus on the CO2 scam (instead of actual industrial pollution), and probably forgetting a bunch

I've always tried to read a range of perspectives/opinions, even from people I... disagree with (to put it nicely) - from communists to libertarians, racists to the woke Borg, everything in between, and yes, conspiracy theorists. More than ever, I feel like the conspiracy theorists have the highest accuracy and crime solving rating.

Edit: I should add, by Republicans, I mean (R) politicians. I have nothing against conservatives.

[–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I feel like the conspiracy theorists have the highest accuracy and crime solving rating.

And no matter how good our track record is, with every new "This was purposeful" event we call out, we're still derided with, "Oh, you're crazy. They'd never go that far!"

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★ 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah :(

I try to stay hopeful that people will come around tho :)

[–]ageingrockstar 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Oh, I thought you meant today, as you started off with 'Happy Friday'

I woke up very early ... today

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

lol today counts too!

[–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It was a process more than an event.

It started in 2004 when Kos explicitly fought any efforts toward election transparency, and restricted conversations discussing rather obvious anomalies surrounding electronic voting. It would come out later that Kos was trained CIA.

It accelerated in 2016 when it was clear that our media was involved in a coordinated knee-capping to stop Bernie in the efforts to elevate Hillary.

The global covid power play was the final Blue Pill that cemented my separation from a Red Pilled world.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

2020 was the year of my awakening. Yeah I was a bit late to the party. Things that woke me up: 1) THIS sub helped me wake up. 2) The DNC rigging of the 2020 primaries 3) The covid regime 4) Nomination of ACB 5) Force the vote.

My awakening wasn’t just one moment or one event. In 2016 believed Russia gate. I thought that Russia had stolen the 2016 election. I remember deciding to support Bernie Sanders during the 2019 debates. I genuinely believed that he would win because his candidacy just made sense. I thought networks like CNN and MSNBC would support him because they were on the left right? Surely liberals would realize the folly of Hilary Clinton and stop electing milk toast moderates like Joe Biden?

I was watching the Young Turks when I saw Krystal Ball. I immediately started watching Krystal and Saagar on the Hill in early 2020. I was excited for a political candidate for the first time since 2008. Speaking of 2008, I had been badly burned from 2008 after the Obama years but Bernie would be different right?

I was devastated when Bernie “lost” but I still didn’t realize the depth of the Democratic Party’s depravity. I thought Trump’s covid response was so bad that the Biden administration had to be able to do better right? The election happened. Biden “won.” Trump’s claims of election rigging were just crazy talk right? After all Trump was just a chaos agent.

Then RBG died and Trump replaced her. I saw the democrats fundraise off of ACB’s nomination while not lifting a finger to gum up the works? Why? Why wouldn’t they do anything? Why wouldn’t they hold up the process? There were multiple things they could have done but didn’t. https://www.leftvoice.org/the-democrats-did-nothing-to-stop-amy-coney-barretts-confirmation/

Then in the fall of 2020 I started watching Jimmy Dore. He said things that sounded far fetched. He called Bernie a cuck and said AOC had sold out. I thought Jimmy was just a pothead (which he is) but I kept listening. Then Jimmy came up with a genius idea called force the vote. He explained that the new Congress can withhold their vote for Nancy Pelosi unless she brings a floor vote for Medicare for All. Then I saw the most vicious attacks on Jimmy and anyone who agreed with him. Why? A vote for M4A is such a simple thing? Why would anyone who supported leftist ideals oppose this, but oppose it they did. In fact, the vast majority of the left brought down holy hell on anyone who wanted the squad to withhold their votes for something in return.

Then on January 3, 2021, the squad didn’t force the vote. January 6th happened a few days later and the democrats used it to ramp up the police state and censorship. And now I was fully awake with no illusions. No more false hope.

Politicians cannot save us. We have to save ourselves. Keep speaking your truth. Even when it doesn’t seem like people are listening or when your words seem hopeless. Someone is out there listening to you waiting to be woken up.

[–]EddieC 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Politicians cannot save us. We have to save ourselves.

 
Politicians - and anyone who (un)wittingly - sustain the Hierarchy, will not save us.
We can and must save ourselves.
 

[–]Maniak🥃😾 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Woke up to which part? There are lots of those, kinda hard to wake up to the whole thing at once.

Unless you're talking about alarm clocks.