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[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Timcast IRL discussing this tonight with Viva Frei, a name I've seen mentioned here a time or two, though I can't remember why.

[–]MartiniPlease send olives! 🍸 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Viva Frei, a name I've seen mentioned here a time or two

Here? or back on Reddit? Reddit for sure.

[–]rundown9 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good headline grabber, especially considering the phalanx of security Joe's failson travels around with ... NTM Fauci??

Wouldn't trust it, considering the circumstances of Kennedy family history.

[–]Lllp44 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Biden doesn’t want to admit he has any rivals to the Democratic nomination.

I doubt that Bill Weld or Mark Sanford got Secret Service protection in 2019-2020. But those were guys who got probably less than 1% of the primary vote. Well below how RFK Jr. is currently polling.

[–]arnott[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Biden doesn’t want to admit he has any rivals to the Democratic nomination.

This is the reason.

[–]sdl5 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Much as I TRULY DESPISE siding with MSM or the WH, this was a reach by nearly a year, and then only if:

Literally only Obama, and that was an effort by Durbin and the HHS Secretary authorized it.

Yeah yeah, his Dad and Uncle etc- I should know far better than most here about the first- but he is a MINOR candidate still at this point no matter what your own personal opinion is, and no other family member who has ran for any office has gotten similar.

By highlighting this NOW it IS creating a vulnerability for an attack from the impulse types, and those like who engaged in the past K family ones would not even be slowed if it was granted.

Which I have no doubt both Jr and his private security know full well.

And begs the question WHY ask THEM in the first place?????


Also- Does NO ONE HERE REMEMBER IN 2020? OR 2016????

We should all be more than familiar with this info:

"...in 1968, Congress changed the law to authorize Secret Service protection for major presidential and vice presidential candidates and their spouses within 120 days of the general presidential election.

The term "major presidential and vice presidential candidates" means those identified as such by the secretary of Homeland Security after consultation with an advisory committee consisting of the speaker of the House of Representatives, the minority leader of the House of Representatives, the majority and minority leaders of the Senate and one additional member selected by the other members of the committee.

A candidate has to hit several markers to show they are a "major presidential candidate." "

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/presidential-candidate-secret-service-protection-factors-analysis/story?id=62513154

[–]MartiniPlease send olives! 🍸 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

And begs the question WHY ask THEM in the first place?????

If they knew it would be denied, and asked anyway, then maybe the denial is valuable in their public OPSEC plan.

Doesn't do much to reveal their covert OPSEC plans.

Trying to channel my inner u/netweasel here.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

maybe the denial is valuable

Did you ever ask your parents for something for which you knew the answer would be "no" just to have that "no" on record?

If you know the answer is going to be "no" either there would be a reason to actually receive the "no" or there is no point in asking.

Alternate question: If the answer had been "yes" would it have messed up their nefarious plans? Or was this an example of the Xanatos Gambit (warning: TVTropes link)?

[–]MartiniPlease send olives! 🍸 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Precisely! I guess I did an ok job channeling my inner netweasel :)

[–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Given the history with his dad and uncle, it's not terribly unreasonable. What is good about the request though, is that it might pause the administration taking him out, as denying the request would look extra bad after the fact. I'd say that it's a savvy move.

[–]MartiniPlease send olives! 🍸 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Great minds!

(hadn't scrolled far enough to see your insight)

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    [–]sdl5 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Yes the Marshalls are a far better request.

    Yeah, some spin involved- but still a very early request let alone complaint.

    [–]CaelianPost No Toasties 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I would venture to say that perhaps RFK Jr is safer with his own security than with the Secret Service 🦊

    [–]arnott[S] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Summary:

    From RFK Jr's tweet:

    Since the assassination of my father in 1968, candidates for president are provided Secret Service protection. But not me.

    Typical turnaround time for pro forma protection requests from presidential candidates is 14-days. After 88-days of no response and after several follow-ups by our campaign, the Biden Administration just denied our request. Secretary Mayorkas: "I have determined that Secret Service protection for Robert F Kennedy Jr is not warranted at this time." Our campaign's request included a 67-page report from the world's leading protection firm, detailing unique and well established security and safety risks aside from commonplace death threats.

    [–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    That's a lot like asking them to help out Gonzalo Lira.

    [–]Maniak🥃😾 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Or Assange.