Establishment BSRemember "A vote for Jill is a vote for Trump?" The update's a doozy

submitted by MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee from self.WayOfTheBern

Brie: "You absolutely do not have to vote for Joe Biden. Even if you live in a swing state."

VBNMW Mk2: "This is voter suppression."

Wait, what was that now? Went by just a little fast.

Yup. It seems this is the new diktat from the DNC: if you tell anyone it's okay to consider supporting a third party, you are in fact committing a felony.

Sadly, this evil vote-suppressing cryptofascist remains unashamed and unrepentant.

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[–]therazorx👹🧹🥇 The road to truth is often messy. 👹📜🕵️🎖️ 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The biggest proof that "Push him left" doesn't work is seeing how far the "Dem" voters have been pushed "Right" over the years.

He who gazes into the abyss and all that...

[–]rondeuce40DC Is Wakanda For Assholes 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

When this tired ass line of voting for a 3rd party is a vote for Trump gets bandied about , it tells me to vote 3rd party. Also I'm spiteful when it comes to this.

[–]unagisongsBurn down Reddit! 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Democrat noise in. Democrat noise out. They need us. We don't need them.

[–]3andfro 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you think votes reported reflect votes cast, they need us. Otherwise....

[–]risistill me 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Democrats can't have it both ways.

They claim that a vote for the candidate of a newer party is a vote for the Republican nominee. So, no vote has been suppressed!

Also, isn't it amusing that the Party that takes the most votes from Democrats is not the struggling Green Party, but the thriving Republican Party. So, why focus on the Greens, who've been getting fewer and fewer Presidential votes?

And here's a totally radical thought--How about politicians doing their job and representing most Americans, instead of only those who have (generous) lobbyists?

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Here's an excellent WotB discussion from September 2020: Voting in 2020 be like

I particularly like this comment by u/PirateGirl-JWB:

Two party system, in a nutshell:

At this table, we offer you a choice of two glasses of poison — this red one will kill you quickly, and this blue one will kill you very, very slowly. Oh, and ignore the guy at the next table from the GP. Those glasses of water, milk or V8 juice will never quench your thirst.

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 9 insightful - 5 fun9 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 5 fun -  (4 children)

Here is my favorite essay on this subject. It's from 2016 at /r/jillstein: How I feel as a former Bernie supporter right now:

I feel like I'm in a very large, very crowded room right now, filled with people who are all about to vote on whether we will all go blind, or all go deaf. Oh, and there are also other options on the table that nobody seems to be discussing. Conversations between these people and myself go like this:

"You can't possibly be willing to vote to go blind, can you? Just imagine how terrible that would be!"

"I agree, that sounds awful! Going deaf also seems like an awful choice, I'm going to vote to eat cupcakes."

"Pfft, you're just throwing your vote away. Look around here, nobody is going to vote for that! You might not like it but we're either all going deaf or all going blind and you might as well choose the better of those two options."

"I don't want either of those options. I'd rather eat cupcakes."

"Well I would too, but nobody is going to vote that way. We have a two-choice system set up and we have to pick between two crappy options."

Read the whole thing. It's not long and very well said.

[–]stickdog 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

2 Girls, No Cupcakes

[–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee[S] 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

I am, with difficulty, resisting the urge to post the oh look cupcakes meme.

[–]CaelianPost No Toasties 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

LOL! I looked it up.

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    [–]3andfro 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

    This is one of many really stupid ways in which Republicans are trying to appeal to the dumbest voters in order to split the Democrat vote. --bootylicious

    Do you really think Democrats need help alienating voters who once believed the "party of working people" talk and finally started comparing it to the walk?

    It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it. --Eugene V. Debs

    EDIT: Buh-bye, bootylicious, the latest comment-deleter, who dished it out but couldn't take it.

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      [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      Vote for the electable candidate you want.

      Blind or deaf. Cupcakes isn't an option! What do you think this is, a democracy??

      [–]3andfro 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

      Totally relevant. If you can't see that, you might reconsider insulting the intelligence of others.

      About your "irrelevant" parenthetical comment, read the sidebar for WotB's simple One Rule: DBAD.

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        [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

        So you didn't learn a thing from 2016.

        [–]3andfro 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (10 children)

        Irrelevant. (And really dumb.) --bootylicious

        Redundant, too? Or should we excuse the repetition of this comment as a stutter?

        How did this little sub rate such erudite, concise, and elevating discourse from the person who chose the username of bootylicious?

        Thanks for the chuckles, booty.

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          [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

          Shouldn't you be leaving them alone?

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            [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

            But you should leave me alone, troll.

            Well, the thing is, you have a tendency to re-engage with those you have told to "leave you alone."

            And I have held off for quite some time before addressing you directly.

            He asked a question

            I mean, it's not like you're in the habit of answering questions, even when asked of you directly.

            Also there seemed to be the lack of a "u/" in front of your referenced username.....

            Does "leave me alone" also mean "and don't talk about me" as well?
            Way to Defend Free Speech there.

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              [–]Orochiwe don't need no water let the mother[honk] burn 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (31 children)

              To be fair, voting Democrat hasn't helped anyone either.

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                    [–]3andfro 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (27 children)

                    Would involve too many syllables --bootylicious

                    Are you taxed by syllables?

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                      [–]3andfro 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

                      Are you able to express yourself without insult (commonly the default stance of the one with the losing argument)? Read the sidebar, "genius."

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                        [–]3andfro 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (7 children)

                        Can't take the 100% civil response? Stay out of the social media kitchen.

                        btw, what a quirky interpretation of "trolling," from the one who's tossing the insults around.

                        [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 7 insightful - 6 fun7 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 6 fun -  (15 children)

                        Are you taxed by syllables?

                        They might end up being taxed by something else before too long.....

                        [–]FThumbStay thirsty, my friends 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (14 children)

                        Indeed.

                        [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (13 children)

                        For those following along at home, those "[deleted]" comments seem to have been genuinely deleted by the user.
                        There is no record of them in their comment history any longer.

                        I'm guessing it was an attempt to hide evidence -- "SHOW me where I said..."

                        [–]CaelianPost No Toasties 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (10 children)

                        Just say "boo!" and he slithers away.

                        [–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee[S] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

                        If only the kind of politicians boo advocates for were as fragile.

                        [–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

                        Holy cow! That entire thread in response to Bri is toxic. She is REALLY over the target.

                        [–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                        The funny part is I've often felt disappointed in Brie post-election, since she seems to be devolving into more and more of a conventional Dem. There are occasional hints of what she used to be: whip-smart, fearless, and principled, by far the best part of Bernie's second campaign, but they're much too rare.

                        Seeing her get the "evil purist" treatment is really an eye-opener. I only hope it will be for her as well.

                        [–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                        disappointed in Brie post-election

                        Her most recent The Hill bits, have been extra disappointing, as she solidifies towards the DNC.

                        [–]CrazyjanecreepyjeffReality Monger 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                        She’s been getting this treatment since before 2020. She voted Green 2 cycles. She will vote for Cornel this time around. She supported force the vote. She has never been a conventional Dem.

                        [–]MeganDelacroix🤡🌎 detainee[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                        Yeah, which is why I said "seems to be devolving into," rather than "is."

                        I've just found her to be more inclined to range into idpol territory, on Rising and her own show, than she was during the campaign. Back then she seemed as contemptuous of it as any WotBer.

                        [–]CrazyjanecreepyjeffReality Monger 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                        Yea i mean she is friends with Krystal so there is a bit of tooth to the worry.

                        [–]CaelianPost No Toasties 10 insightful - 6 fun10 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 6 fun -  (3 children)

                        In 2016 I voted for Jill Stein. To Democrats, that was a vote for Trump. To Republicans, it was a vote for Hillary. So I got to vote three times! All perfectly legal, of course 🦊

                        [–]CrazyjanecreepyjeffReality Monger 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

                        Crazy how powerful we are!

                        [–]3andfro 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                        Taking that comment to the serious realm:

                        If we were powerful, would we be scorned and ridiculed with sticks rather than courted with policiy and action carrots?

                        Guess it's just more shaming in the public square to coerce the desired behavior.