Yes, trolls add value to a community - The life and times of the Turtle Tax

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[–]bootylicious 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

a brigade ensued, and a lot of people left very unhappy and upset while they pretended they were LEEROOOOY MMJENNKINSSSS!!!!

No - not at all what happened.

10 Saiditors commented on the turtle tax, and 3 Saiditors were particularly annoyed, noting how insulting it is and how moderators apply it for obviously frivolous reasons, to attack people who disagree with the WatB hive mind, and the shelled users assume it's a permanent penalty, and thus shelled users do one of two things:

1) Leave (because they don't want to be insulted with the 'I like turtles' tag that identifies them as hated users)

2) Stay on WatB because they have absolutely no self respect.

As we've discussed at length, Inuma, the standard practice is a temporary ban (noting a week or a month), rather than this permanent shelling insult against a user who merely does not agree. (Yes, you note that it's not permanent, but the new user who is shelled is not told that (another example of very bad management). WatB has dwindled from 90,000 subscribers to Saidit's 45 WatB subscribers, half of which are active, partially because of these insults, and also because WatB is mostly devoted to spreading misinformation, as we've seen for years.) Hope this brings people up to date. There was no brigading, by any stretch of the imagination.

[–]InumaGaming Socialist[S] 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (23 children)

Dude, it's a hyperbolic statement meant to be humorous right along with posts to shells and the Luigi Death Stare and Nuts vs Guts music video about getting kicked in the dick and boots to the cooch.

RELAX!

And the shortened version of Way of the Bern is WotB, not WatB.

Goddamn man...

[–]Centaurea 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

the shortened version of Way of the Bern is WotB

😮 Well, darn it. All this time, I've been capitalizing the "T". WoTB.

[–]InumaGaming Socialist[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Well, most people shorten it because they don't "Feel THE Bern" after bernie put out his fire. So you're good.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Well one thing that I do have to give credit to BootyBoy for....

His misnomer did lead to a name which may be even better than the original one:
We ARE The Bern.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

bootylicious: You posted this in bad faith?

Thought he said for you not to talk to him.

I wonder if the Master of Free Speech over there is gonna try to get this post removed.

[–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You posted this in bad faith?

I'm just adding to your comments. Happy to help. No big deal.

[–]InumaGaming Socialist[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That's pretty disingenuous even for you when you can't grasp humor and intentionally create obtuse reaches as you do.

But hey, you do you.

[–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

meant to be humorous

if it's not funny, you can't blame anyone for assuming you're trying to post in good faith.

[–]InumaGaming Socialist[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not my fault you impacted your funny bone. Nor my fault you reach for conclusions that are perfectly illogical.

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

That one does not appear to be too bright.....

WatB has dwindled from 90,000 subscribers to Saidit's 45 WatB subscribers

<looks at sidebar, sees "19,804 readers"> [Edit, 10 minutes later: 19,805]
I remember seeing, on June 13th of this year, 19,750 "readers" here. (We have archives) Do the math.

They recently claimed to have been a member of "r/WatB" from way back, and the sub ain't what it used to be. And they never saw a Turtle in all that time that they were (allegedly) there.
They offered no proof of this (as ones who make such a claim almost never do.)

[–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Years ago, Saidit recorded every visitor to a sub by referring to that visitor as a 'reader', adding up to 40k readers over the years for some subs. There have been 19,805 individual visitors to WatB since its creation years ago. And as you correctly note, there have been 54 total readers at WatB since 13 June (15 of whom are currently here).

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    [–]BlackhaloPurity Pony: Pусский бот 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    were

    Were? I'm pretty sure that's a steady-state.

    [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Continually doubling down on a series of mistaken assertions

    Is it actually "doubling down" or is it "making the pile higher"?

    [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    https://saidit.net/subs/?count=100&after=t4_3j

    /s/WayOfTheBern: Feel the Bern! 19,805 subscribers, a community for 5 years

    [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Saidit recorded every visitor to a sub by referring to that visitor as a 'reader'

    If that is going on now, that it is measuring a total of people who have been here.....
    How is it that the numbers can go down?

    I can think of much better uses for a time machine.....

    [–]bootylicious 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I don't know

    [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I don't know

    Most honest thing you've said in this whole thread.

    [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Years ago, Saidit recorded every visitor to a sub by referring to that visitor as a 'reader'

    Hmm. That would mean that if I went in through a "private window," Saidit would see me as a "new visitor" and the numbers would go up, right?

    (That is checkable)

    [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Well. Communication has been breached, which means the block suggested by The Butthurt One was not done.
    Good to know.

    So... how does one get to the actual numbers of people subscribed to a sub?

    and while I'm at it....

    • How many comments were made in all of Saidit in the past 24 hours?
    • How many comments were made in just the subs in s/all in the past 24 hours?
    • How many comments were made in s/WotB in the past 24 hours?

    Also, you mean to tell me that in the past about five years, there have only been fewer than 50,000 people who have even looked at Saidti?? And that almost half of those looked at s/WOTB??

    [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I did find this:

    https://saidit.net/s/all/comments/ -- 100th most recent comment: 4 hours ago.
    https://saidit.net/s/WayoftheBern/comments/ -- 100th most recent comment: 8 hours ago.
    (if one wishes to verify, use an incognito window -- some subs you are subbed to will be included in the /all list)

    IIRC, WotB's estimated 300 comments/day are not included in s/all's estimated 600 comments/day.

    [–]InumaGaming Socialist[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    I asked him to validate his statement and he left in a huff in telling me to leave him alone too.

    So sure, I'll leave him alone. The topic is there, he doesn't know the in jokes, the people, he comes to inane conclusions, and merely speaks as if he's our Lord and Master instead of understanding the Church of Katakuri

    All I can do is pray for him.

    In the name of the Mama...

    The Second Son...

    And the holy... DOOOOOOONUTS!!!!

    (This man needs their guidance...)

    A-men...

    [–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    telling me to leave him alone too.

    I said it then; I'll say it now... Welp, so much for Free Speech.

    Also, by his "reckoning" another "third" of the "no brigading, by any stretch of the imagination" suggested to his third of the "no brigading, by any stretch of the imagination" that he block me.

    If he did, since this is Saidit/"oldReddit", I still have the Free Speech to have my words seen by others. Just not him. I don't see that as a loss.