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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I too watch cnn brother.

[–]MolecCodiciesCOVID-9/11 Vaccines Don’t Work 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He is in fact extremely critical of vaccines, and outspoken against real government conspiracies. It’s just that these are positive traits

[–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]tsanazi2 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

An anti-RFK Jr. redditor challenged me sarcastically to list what RFK Jr. has said that is right. It turns out that's a fair question. Here's a preliminary list:

  • Big Pharma has captured the government medical organizations

  • Research and especially medical journals have become biased in favor of big Pharma (hence the need for Cochrane)

  • There has been a dramatic increase in chronic illness in the past few decades. (And RFK's policy position is for the government to undertake medical research to determine the root causes).

  • The medical/pharma industrial complex has detrimentally promoted a drugs-solve-everything approach over measures such as healthy eating, exercise and safe infrastructure (e.g. clean water) that would be more effective but less profitable.

[–]tsanazi2 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

And more in the weeds:

  • Ivermectin is a harmless drug

  • Fauci worked to get Remdesivir approved despite an absence of evidence for its efficacy. Remdesivir proved very harmful

  • No science supports the efficacy of the mask policies rolled out during COVID

  • The lockdowns and subsequent economic problems created substantial health problems

  • The vaccine makers fudged their analysis of the vaccine trial to unduly make the vaccines look safer than they are. Fudged = biased interpretation of the data, suppression of adverse events, eliminating the control group prematurely

[–]tsanazi2 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Importantly:

  • In the eighties Reagan gave immunity to the vax manufacturers

  • Part of that immunity, in the statute, admitted that vaccines were inherently unsafe

[–]tsanazi2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

  • For health academics and health bureaucrats, opposing prevailing big Pharma products and policy is career-risking.

  • Government health budgets are funded primarily by big Pharma

  • Government health employees can receive royalties on big Pharma products they oversee.

[–]3andfro 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Small point: Congress provided that shield from legal liability in the form of the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986, which offered "Vaccine Court" (National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, or NVICP) as an alternative. Reagan just signed the bill.

A not-small point: Because C19 vaccines administered in the US were authorized under EUA, the mRNA vaccines aren't covered through Vaccine Court but through the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program (CICP). This is worth a read: https://www.natlawreview.com/article/most-vaccine-injuries-are-covered-vicp-except-covid-shots-we-all-just-received

More on CICP:

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/01/vaccine-injury-compensation-programs-overwhelmed-as-congressional-reform-languishes-00033064

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2021/11/04/feds-pay-zero-claims-for-covid-19-vaccine-injuriesdeaths/?sh=6361a8144a87

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/covid-19-vaccine-claims-yield-small-payouts-us-government-2023-04-18/

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

If you were uninformed, why did you think that RFKjr was an anti-vaxxer, wacko, conspiracy theorist, and not merely the son of RFK?

Misinformed, disinformed, possibly even informed... but uninformed? Unlikely.

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ah, I was just quoting the guy. Found it was interesting he was starting to attract people like Ackman (for better or worse).

[–]NetweaselContinuing the struggle 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah, I was just quoting the guy.

That just bumps the question up one level. "The guy," if he thought himself uninformed, was misinformed.

[–]stickdog 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It wasn't an uninformed opinion so much as an establishment propaganda informed opinion.

[–]risistill me 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

From multi-billionaire Ackman's wiki article:

Personal life

Ackman married Karen Ann Herskovitz, a landscape architect, on July 10, 1994[92] and they have three children. On December 22, 2016, it was reported that the couple had separated.[3]

As of 2017, Ackman owned a Gulfstream G550 business jet.[93][94]

In 2018, Ackman became engaged to Dr. Neri Oxman.[95] In January 2019, Oxman and Ackman married at the Central Synagogue in Manhattan,[13] and they had their first child together in spring 2019.[96] In August 2019, Ackman wrote to MIT to discourage them from revealing the $125,000 donation that Jeffrey Epstein made to Oxman’s lab.[97]

Ackman endorsed Michael Bloomberg as a prospective candidate for President of the United States in the 2016 presidential election.[98] He is a longtime donor to Democratic candidates and organizations, including Richard Blumenthal, Chuck Schumer, Robert Menendez, the Democratic National Committee, and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.[99] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ackman

His current wife's wiki article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neri_Oxman

[–]tomatopotato★ Free Assange ★[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ngl, feels kinda icky.

[–]risistill me 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

For me, it was icky at "anti-vaxx." My position on "the jab" has always been more mild than that of most WOTBers, namely, do your own research (pro and con), talk to your own doctor(s) and make your own decision. I've not urged anything else.

However, "anti-vaxx" is a lie as to RFK, Jr. (and most of the people who opposed "the jab"). So, it felt very blue Kool Aid to me and got me searching.

Being married to an Israeli American may or may not explain why Ackman was able to get past his brainwashing and get interested in RFK, Jr., given the latter's position on Israel. I did not anticipate finding any reference to Epstein whatsoever or a cover up, though.

[–]unagisongsBurn down Reddit! 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Join the club. You aren't the first or last to get rolled by propaganda experts. These are skilled individuals that have carefully honed their craft over decades. The average person doesn't stand chance when they have been trained to reject citizenship and embrace consumerism.