Russian invaders tore out the fingernails of some of their victims before they shot them in Izyum.

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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

You, Socks, and that guy everyone always thinks is Socks share similar ideologies that run counter to most others here.

I personally distrust everything Ukraine says, I don't think they have a shred of credibility left.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

And you think Russia is right-wing?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I'm not one of those Ukraine is bad, Russia good Trump fucks. They're both pretty shit.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Is right-wing good?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Hells no, although I think currently the right is preferable to what's become of liberalism. The left used to be the good guys, fought for people's rights and freedom of speech. They went wacko tho, built upon a shakey foundation of logic so that higher order concepts became an exercise in mental gymnastics devoid of logic.

Personally I'd prefer more viable political parties in the US, but we got the left which has been hijacked by "progressives," Marxists really, and the right that's been jacked by President Cheeto. The latter is the least bad option atm.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Do you think Russia is right-wing?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I dunno, how would I be familiar with Russian politics.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe you read something once?

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

What about hrw?

https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/07/22/ukraine-torture-disappearances-occupied-south

Or imcp?

https://www.icmp.int/news/ukraines-forgotten-missing-and-disappeared/

The economist?

https://www.economist.com/europe/2022/07/07/russia-is-disappearing-vast-numbers-of-ukrainians

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I believe it when I see a video.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I've seen videos of them shooting civilians.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'll look for them. Out of curiosity, were you upset by the massive amount of civilian lives lost in the Afghanistan/ Iraq conflicts?

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I was.

Particularly Iraq. As Afghanistan dragged on, I followed it less closely. But I remember the excess mortality from Iraq being really high from the damage to the medical and sewerage infrastructure.