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[–]Akatonbo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

31 Jul 2024: the IBA makes a statement condemning the IOC for allowing Khelif and Lin to compete after being DQ'd as a result of not passing 2 separate sex tests in Turkey (2022) and India (2023) and not appealing the results. The IBA stated they weren't testosterone tests but refused to elaborate citing privacy concerns.

02 Aug 2024: Canadian (?) radfems report that István Kovács, the European Vice President of the World Boxing Organization and former Secretary General of the IBA, told the Hungarian Magyar Nemzet, a moderately right newspaper, that it was clear since 2022 that Khelif in particular was biologically male, and this discovery was not made based on his testosterone levels. Kovács also stated that he personally notified the International Olymic Committee about Khelif's abnormal results, and the IOC "did not react".

03 Aug 2024: an American journalist Alan Abrahamson, who seems to be somewhat known in the Olympic world for unwaveringly covering Olympic events for many years, claims in two consecutive articles that he has seen the IOC notification and attached test results of Khelif and Lin that "depict the XY chromosomes photographically".

05 Aug 2024: the IBA holds a press conference where their Greek doctor speaks openly around 34:48 about tests that revealed the "meil karyotip" in Khelif and Lin. The doc's spoken English is atrocious but not completely unintelligible, and he seems to be very much aware of doctors being bullied for knowing what "womans" are. The IBA then issues a second statement explicitly naming Turkish and Indian labs that did the tests and clarifying IBA's eligibility rules for the women's category as "woman = XX".

That's about as official as we can get it.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The last 2 sources are much better than what I had seen at the time and also since 4 days ago I have seen some newer sources. There's a couple things i find annoying about this situation. First of all, this whole changing of vocabulary around "intersex" to "difference in sexual development". It's obviously meant to be manipulative to describe it that way. This doesn't help intersex people, it just pushes into the whole TRA dogma that "she was born female and just developed differently". No, that's not what intersex people are. It makes intersex conditions more vague and also lassos in a bunch of other crap that isn't intersex and attempts to validate the whole trans umbrella by finding a reason to have intersex in this different category.

Next is how they keep sneering about "lol these idiots think she is transgender but she was """"born female and always identified""" as a woman." This is putting the framing of the issue of a birth certificate on another planet, exactly where they like it. They insist on this framing that people are "assigned" male or female "at birth" and so this person who is likely intersex got assigned female INCORRECTLY because the doctor probably just looked at the lack of penis and testes. Then because the person never "transitioned" these people keep saying "she is a cisgender woman" because on this other planet their minds live on, all that matters is the "self ID".

It's such a weird turn of events all at once. Intersex no longer exists. She just developed differently. Whoever marked the birth certificate etc didn't know or didn't realize that intersex was a thing. Because the doctor made a mistake on the paperwork, that means the person is now "cisgender female" because they never tried to transition (assuming the person even knew what transgender was before this).