What are the issues with gender abolition?

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[–]bife_de_lomo 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

My childhood was pretty scarring

Aaaaand there we go. Every time.

[–]Jiminy 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

I think really the issue is these guys childhoods are too easy, spoiled too much. So they join the oppression olympics for attention.

[–]Haylstorm 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Wouldn't surprise me. Some of them also really seem to want that dramatic blow-up with their family. I'm not convinced a few of them don't manufacture drama just so they can say their family hates them for being trans.

[–]Jiminy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah they want to make daddy mad. Which is common for teens, like growing hair long during the Beatles. Too bad this trans trend is way worse.

[–]thethrowawayReddit refugee 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thank goodness that when I was an edgy teenager, transvestites were basically unheard of. I had never met one nor had I heard of one until I was ~22 or so. There was one gay guy in my highschool and rumours about another one. I cant imagine being a teenager and rebelling by making permanent damage to my sexual organs.... the worst part is I dont think Id be 100% immune to their propaganda given the stupid stuff I believed in back in '08 and '09.

[–]Jiminy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I remember as a teen wondering whet was up with rock stars like jagger, Bowie, Robert Smith. Looking back trans stuff was predictable and inevitable. And there's been a lot of men living as women they history like tennis players. It's like gay people, always existed, and they want to be out of the closet so fund this movement. The rich get into weird decadent shit, fetishes, they have to make it edgier and edgier to get off.

A normal, pastoral, traditional life is too boring for them. And they always want children to abuse

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think that's common, but childhood sexual abuse is another common factor.

I do think that when you don't have any real problems though you tend to overexaggerate the problems you do have. I read a lot of these experiences and it's shitty complaints like "My parents made me go to church".

No shit I bet they made you do homework and eat your vegetables as well. So abusive.

[–]alladd 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Yeah I think lack of direction more than anything is what draws these people to trooning out. If all you want to do all day is jerk off online then why not adopt an identity which centers that activity.

[–]Jiminy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Alienation. A long time problem and I have it myself. It can confuse people, we all want meaning and belonging and love. But how can we get it? Especially in this weird world.

[–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

There's a tremendous mental burden to overcome to break out of the established patterns, and often it's difficult to quantify the time and effort it takes to do so. Combine that with a universal public effort to push people back into those patterns (and even justify them as "self-care" or fitting in or whatever) means that the only people who break out are those who commit a tremendous mental effort to an incredibly unpopular idea without prior direction or guidance and somehow persist at it until it works.

[–]Jiminy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

My dad gave me good guidance, how to work hard and struggle thru hard times. I don't always live totally like that, but I'd be screwed if I didn't have that guidance as a kid. Nothing else gives that kind of guidance, not online or the media anyway. Certain self help people will give that advice I guess.

[–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

My parents did nothing for me on that front. They're both huge narcissists still. I had to break out of that mindset and to this day talking to them is difficult because of how they see and relate to the world.

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

One thing about my dad too was he was narcissistic and lazy, he had made some money before but basically retired in his 40s and sometimes his hard work advice went in one year and out the other when I'd see him laying on the couch all the time. That being said it could have been worse with no dad at all, my mom gave me 100% bad advice all the time.

[–]BATMAN-IS-A-FAGGOT 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

IT SHOULD BE LEGAL TO RAPE OR KIDNAP OR MURDER YOUR PARENTS.

THAT WOULD KEEP THEM IN LINE MORE.

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Wish you'd get raped

You're a net negative on humanity

[–]OuroborosTheory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think it's like with bridezillas: either they have actual deprivation in their past they haven't dealt with, or they've princesses who've never been told "no" and are literally Crying and Shaking and Poopenfarten because they saw a "free parking" sign or whatever; there's no middle valley between these two peaks

[–]Jiminy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Daddy issues. Either daddy wasn't around or didn't care about them so they want to do something to make him proud. Or he was a great dad and they want to disappoint them.

For guys going trans often it's a left wing mom brainwashing them since birth.