TRANSGENDERTrans violence is violence - Middle school trans-identified male beats up girl (Video)

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[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Definitely should be allowed into girls’ spaces. Totally safe and absolutely appropriate.

As a teacher I would never condone his male classmates reminding him of the behaviour expected of him and I would totally ensure that the school’s behaviour policy was enforced appropriately and to the letter of the law, totally.

Edit: Here's another angle, because apparently the little angels arranged multiple cameras to film it.

Edit 2: And he has form for attacking girls, video of a previous attack he carried out, on two girls this time.

[–]xoenix 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Follow up school board meeting where they explain why they don't have a zero tolerance policy for violence. The implication being that an expelled student might come back and shoot the place up.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A truly bizarre situation.

A student who poses a danger to others has no place in the school. Here in England we have special schools called Pupil Referral Units (PRU) where children, mostly but but not only boys, who have severe behaviour problems can be sent where the teaching staff are specially trained and supported to attempt to correct the child’s behaviour and if that’s not possible contain them whilst the state has a duty to provide them with an education. I know someone who worked in one for a while and it’s challenging work but it means that the absolute worst behaving pupils don’t fuck op the education of the normal well-behaved children and most importantly don’t pose a risk to them.

I know one boy who got sent to a PRU for a year and came back a model student and went on to do fairly well for himself, so it can work.

[–]IMissPorn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Tin pot authority figures--which includes pretty much all school officials--just really love bullies, don't they?

[–]xoenix 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Aaand student is apparently going to be charged.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

https://twitter.com/Slatzism/status/1707602806113280263

Lol

[–]AriShekelsteinDDS 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Per the link, it appears that the school district has seen a trend of kids starting fights etc in order to upload them to social media.

As the article implies, this was likely the case, which means it was premeditated. Whoever was filming was filming because they knew it was going to happen. They should charge that little shit too.

Might make the rest of the kids think twice. Might.

[–]beazer12beard 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There's another version of the video where you can see the 14 seconds leading up to the hallway attack.

The cameraperson is clearly laying in wait for the victim to pass them, then following to get the video.

At the 6 second mark you can see a girl in gray pants and white toed sneakers. She times her entry so she can get situated and film the opposite camera angle, her video is your first link.

[–]AriShekelsteinDDS 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The kids who filmed it should be charged as well.

[–]xoenix 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Tell the unstable troon kid that Sally misgendered him, he'll go apeshit and I'll make a hilarious TikTok."

If that's what's happening the gender cult is setting up a giant powderkeg.

[–]xoenix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Now there are bomb threats.

If this school had dealt with the situation promptly and fairly, this shit could have been avoided. Nevermind that they shouldn't be pushing any gender religion in schools in the first place.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Looks like some kids aren't wearing crazy tight pants anymore.

[–]clownworlddropout 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

What a faggot.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

What a faggot. -Shakespeare

FTFY: Added citation

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

https://twitter.com/CoClarified/status/1707454349310623753

Apparently a pretty common occurrence at that school.

Too much diet coke in the womb, me thinks

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

How dare that girl use her body to bruise the hand of that completely valid and delicate young trans lady! 😮

[–]BenitoGreen99 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ad of course, reddit has removed it!!

https://www.reddit.com/r/oregon/comments/16urefs/trans_student_in_oregon_middle_school_brutally/

[–]LtGreenCo 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Trans male attacks female student

Ordinarily when I see "trans man" or "trans male" I've been conditioned to expect it to be in reference to a woman LARPing as a man, but now I dunno what the fuck to think. Then again that's probably by design.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah that wasn’t the best way of labelling the video by Riley Gaines.

I think you’re 100% on the language being designed to be confusing, the postmodernists love their language games, but in this instance I think Riley just forgot the “identified” bit.

[–]GraviHeel Hortler 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Jeez, this is just terrifying, normal girls can't really match the strength of that guy and the worst thing is, nobody is going to go after a "girl", especially a trans "girl".

Why does he do it anyway? Just random outbursts of anger and violence? Seems like the hormones are really fucked up in there.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t think middle-schoolers are on hormones usually, puberty blockers possibly but not sure.

With the high rate of mental health and austistic spectrum comorbidities associated with trans-identifying children I wouldn’t be surprised to find out that this child had some behavioural disorder, even before they went trans.

You would think that the fact that they apparently have a track record for some rather extreme violence (the two incidents in the video is probably at the more extreme end of violence I’ve seen in that age group) the school would have some kind of plan in place if they weren’t going to expel them outright.

A child with behaviour issues like that, if they had autism for instance, should have a one-to-one assistant for everyone’s safety (the two children I’ve taught with extreme behaviour issues both had 1to1 supervision). You can’t risk those types of children flipping out and seriously injuring another child or adult.

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

the worst thing is, nobody is going to go after a "girl", especially a trans "girl".

Not in broad daylight, but he might find himself duct taped to a tree after dark. Then, God knows what might happen to him.

[–]LyingSpirit472 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Joke's on you, the kid is likely into that shit!

[–]bucetao6969Ace Spectrum 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Trans people are human and they exist... shouldn't they be prosecuted as such?

[–]Adventurous_Ad6212 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know what you fascists are so angry about. if we want to create a glorious utopia where we can secure the existence of the queer race and a future for trans babies then we have to allow the most stunning and brave among us to proactively act in self defense in order to overtly subvert the covert conditions used to oppress marginalized communities. All i saw in this video was a trans kween defending their right to exsist. you people need to get your eyes and brains checked.

[–]Musky༼⁠ ⁠つ⁠ ⁠◕⁠‿⁠◕⁠ ⁠༽⁠つ 🐈 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I read the girl got suspended for 'misgendering' the guy and he got a slap on the wrist. Might be bullshit.

[–]xoenix 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think I saw the same tweet. I don't think that guy knows anything about it and was just posting sarcastically.

But, I'm fully prepared to find out that she got suspended and troon boy is receiving therapy for being violently misgendered.

[–]BenitoGreen99 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That other girl was probably being a transphobic Terf (/s)

[–]Haylstorm 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Reminded the kid that actual women exist and he'll never be one. By being there as a woman/girl.

Honestly though the way they go after some people there is a genuine undercurrent that they hate women for existing as women.

[–]UncleWillard56 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I love how old Joe immediately takes the side of the aggressor. If it had been someone beating up the trans kid, he'd have been howling for the death penalty. The cult of woke is real.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gulag #1 volunteer.

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Too bad they can't cut it's dick off. It doesn't have one and never will.

[–]makesyoudownvote 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

I think it's the opposite of what you are thinking. The language tripped me up too.

It's always difficult to tell, because both sides of the debate refuse to speak using the same terminology.

But generally the anti-trans people are a little more consistent with language than the TRAs who like to constantly violate their own rules. When sane people say male or female they are talking about the biology, their birth sex or as the trans people like to try to say their "assigned" sex.

Man and woman or boy and girl conversely can be "gendered terms" depending on who is using them.

A trans man is a female.

A trans woman is a male.

Still confusing, but at least this language is consistent.

The perpetrator is a male who identifies as a woman, AMAB, MtF whatever you want to call it.

"She" has a penis. "She" is still a male regardless of whether or not "she's" a woman.

This is why people here want "her" held to the same standards of violence against women a cis man would be. Because no matter how she feels or identifies, her body is still male and caries the same strength advantages of being a man.

[–]tyranicaloverlord 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

What the fuck are you going on about? The term Cis comes from a sexual predator who fucked little boys, don't embrace it. Secondly, a male is a male, and female is female. Just because they say they are something and dress a stereotypical way doesn't mean the are the gender they want to be.

This video is just another of too many of Troons attacking females because they are future violent women beaters.

[–]makesyoudownvote 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yes and Henry Ford was a Hitler supporter, Ghandi was a sexual abuser too. The fact someone did something awful doesn't discredit their body of work. In the case of Dr. Money his work itself is deeply flawed, it's his WORK you should attack on it's lack merits.

But the distinction he drew between sex and gender is one that has caught on. You can argue all you want, but the world moved on past that decades ago. It is the current meaning of the two.

Also there has ALWAYS been a distinction between man and male. You don't have man cats (unless you're a furry) you have a male cat, a female cat. Similarly you don't have the man part of a garden hose and the woman part of a garden hose, you have the male and female parts. Man and woman have always been relatively loosely defined, but it roughly means a male and female (respectively) that are specifically human, and specifically adults. Adulthood itself is also a human construct based around a physiological trend. For most of history in most civilizations adulthood started at the beginning of puberty, around age 13. It's really only in the past 200 years that it's come up to mean 18, only the past 100 that it has come to be so rigid as to really by 18 on the dot, and only the past 20-30 that the consent thing when it comes to sex has been taken all that seriously. As late as the 80s there was little to no social stigma around what would be called ephebophilia (14-19), and Hebephilia (11-14) was where people began really drawing that line. Pedophilia up until really quite recently only described an attraction to people 10 and under. Technically it still does.

This is why of all the things Dr. Money did wrong, this distinction isn't really one of them. He didn't so much make the distinction in a vaccum as to distinguish what used to be a vaguely defined term and hone in on the distinction that was already being used without people really being 100% aware of it.

Also you totally missed the point of my comment entirely. Which was to explain basically exactly what you said "a male is a male and a female is a female" and to say that the language is confusing because this is a complex topic.

People who refuse to discuss and debate the topic on either side are equally complicit in making it confusing. We don't have to agree on the conclusions in order to agree on language enough to at least have conversations.

[–]tyranicaloverlord 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This is a whole lot of word fodder that says nothing other than you buy in to the transgender bullshit.

Man and woman have always been relatively loosely defined

No. You are wrong. It is definitive, logically, scientifically, and unequivocally. To suggest anything otherwise is pseudo intellectual dribble.

Also, stop defending a pedophile.

[–]makesyoudownvote 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ok buddy.

Everyone is wrong but you.

You literately argue JUST like a woke SJW and it's frankly kinda hilarious. You fail to grasp nuance even when walked through the process. It's like you can't risk opening yourself up to nuance because it might change your opinion.

It's ok, some people don't have the brain power to understand the world in anything but black and white. Some people need to think of the primary colors as red, blue, and yellow, because they can't understand how additive or subtractive colors, or they still think the tongue has regions for taste. As full grown adults they still think what they learned from a grade school teacher is more "right" than an entire community of experts who spend their entire lives working out the minutia.

Also did you really think saying I'm defending a pedophile would make me walk back my argument? This is the same tactic SJW's use when they say you are a homophobe, or you are defending a fascist. It's an attempt to create a statement so emotionally overwhelming that people disregard logic and reason and just want to distance themselves from the damning label. The tactic is played out, y'all need to learn a new trick.

[–]tyranicaloverlord 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The fuck are you talking about? I destroyed your contention, and called you out for being a pedophile apologist, and you got nothing to respond with because you know I am right. You said a lot of words without saying anything at all.

[–]makesyoudownvote 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You destroyed nothing except for any belief I had that you were capable of critical thought.

Also exactly, that's the same tactic the SJWs and woke crowd use. Just pick some placeholder word that inspires and emotional reaction, pedophile, heretic, homophobe, transphobe, racist, apologist, fascist, racist. Pick from the list, mix and match for added benefit. It's so easy a child can do it! Then you don't have to make a single argument or risk thinking.

My point was to posit the following question.

How does the fact that Dr. Money was a horrible person relate to his work? Do you understand how those are separate things. Sure he was horrible for the sake of accomplishing work, but that doesn't invalidate the results of the work itself.

Secondly I actually said his work sucks too. Ya might have missed that, like you missed most nuance. It's just that once again you show not enough familiarity with the work, because that would require critical thought, so you revert to an ad hominem attack to avoid it.

The fact you are unable to understand something doesn't make it wrong, but in this case I refuse to admit it's possible for someone who isn't mentally handicaped or below the age of 10 not to understand. It must be obstinance. There is no other way.

[–]ID10T 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The world has not moved on. Only a small minority ever considered sex different than gender. That concept didn't gain popularity until very recently, within the last 10 years. And now that people are seeing where that misconception leads, many realize that the two words should never have meant something different. John Money's experiments into gender were complete failures, or at least succesful in proving his theories incorrect.

The concept of gender as "the sex that you feel inside" is regressive and obviously wrong. How can one feel like something they are not? You can say you feel like a cat, but cannot possibly know what a cat feels like. You can only feel like what you are. If you feel dysphoria, that you aren't truly a man when you were born a man, you are simply mistaken, suffering from a mental disorder. You are a man, so you feel like a man, even if it seems incongruent to your nature.

Furthermore it's regressive because the modern concept of gender as separate than sex involves the idea of gender as presenting as the opposite sex. Basically the belief that a man or woman has specific ways of being. The Neil Degrasse Tyson idea, that if you put on a dress, that increases your percentage of being a woman. It does not of course. There's no right way to be a woman. Second wave feminism promoted the idea that a woman can do typically male activities and jobs, wear pants, etc. So it follows that it's quite regressive to say you are less of a woman if you wear pants, and enjoy sports, hate cooking, etc...

[–]xoenix 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There's the possibility he was chemically castrated.

[–]makesyoudownvote 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fair enough.

If he isn't he should be. For uhh... gender affirming care reasons, and not at all so that he can't reproduce.