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[–]ClassroomPast6178 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Never apologise.

If you don’t want to stand up for yourself, just keep your mouth shut. If you really must voice your opinions then be prepared to stand by them and if necessary defend them.

This “I didn’t really mean it”/“I’m educating myself” bullshit has just given the woke bullies of all flavours, because it isn’t limited to troonery, licence to trample on people and expect the media to support them.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It seems she made her comments as part a private discussion and the person she was talking to screen shot them and made them public on Twitter. You honestly have to be so careful about who and how you talk to about this stuff if you aren't just fully "out."

[–]ClassroomPast6178 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That’s despicable.

[–]Dontcaretoday 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well that explains it then. Whoever she was talking to is a massive piece of shit

[–]xoenix[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It doesn't sound like she completely folded:

She insisted she had nothing but love for everyone, apologising to fans who were hurt by her words, and said she would now ‘bow out’ of the conversation publicly.

Which is why I'm guessing the label is doing this; they didn't get enough self-flagellation out of her.

[–]xoenix[S] 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Someone called them Ninja Troons on Twitter, lol.

[–]IMissPorn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

So are they actually stealing her money, or just donating their share? I can't tell from how it's described.

[–]xoenix[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Somehow I doubt they can just take whatever she was contractually entitled to.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah. It’s why people got annoyed at the film The Joker because it used infamous paedo Gary Glitter’s music in one of the iconic scenes (the staircase scene IIRC) and he therefore made large sums of money from it.

[–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Isn't he in prison?

[–]IMissPorn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hopefully not, but label contracts aren't necessarily known for being fair to artists.

[–]alladd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The label undoubtedly makes more per sale than she does already. They can probably performatively donate a point or two and still clear more in net income than she does.

[–]LtGreenCo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Headline is a little nonsensical.

"Even though" isn't used that way. It's supposed to be, "Even though X, there is Y", Y being something that you wouldn't expect would follow from X. But in this case one would expect a donation to trannies to follow from an apology to trannies.

That's modern journalism for you I guess. Fuck grammar give us clicks.

[–]xoenix[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No that's me editorializing. I guess that's why I'm not a journalist making the big bucks.

[–]LtGreenCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, brain fart on my part then, apologies. For some reason I had it in my head that your title was quoting the article title.

As you are not a journalist (nor am I fwiw) I can easily excuse you for not proofreading.

[–]Dontcaretoday 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It said a large part of her audience is the queers, so it seems like she pulled a bud light in the opposite direction and didn't think about who her consumers were. I agree with her statements, but if you want someone's money you should just keep your mouth shut.

[–]xoenix[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Seems like she was making club music with the band Moloko since the 90s. Her fanbase is probably oldschool gays, not necessarily "queers." Media never misses an opportunity to conflate those groups for maximum damage. Searching her name on Google immediately pulls up sensationalist articles about her "transphobic comments." Typical one-two punch of lies.

[–]Horror-Swordfish 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As a fan of hers, I'm fairly confident in saying that her fan base is mostly millennial gays, not queers. It bothers me that she has to deal with this and potential lost revenue on her new album, although if I was a celebrity I would probably know better than to ever say anything about the TQ+ at all (positive or negative).

[–]Dontcaretoday 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ah gotcha. It's gotta really suck being a non-"queer" gay person getting lumped in with the obnoxious oversensitive crowd. I still don't know why she would say anything in the first place if she wasn't prepared to stand by it, it's not like it's a secret what happens if you say anything even remotely against trans. It's baffling that people still keep making statements and then begging for forgiveness like they didn't know that was gonna happen. Or maybe they really are just that unaware and get blindsided, I dunno.

[–]xoenix[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)