TRANSGENDERSo the UN is preparing to blast the UK on LGBT rights (but we know which of those letters it’s preoccupied with). We can guess which organisations the special rapporteur for Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity (SOGI) listened to on his fact-finding visit.

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[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Is Britain a hostile environment for trans people? The United Nations’ independent expert on sexual orientation and gender identity has delivered his verdict – and it isn’t good. Victor Madrigal-Borloz, a lawyer from Costa Rica, said following a ten-day visit to the country: ‘I am deeply concerned about increased bias-motivated incidents of harassment, threats, and violence against LGBT people, including a rampant surge in hate crimes in the UK.’

But his statement was stronger on rhetoric than evidence. An unnamed ‘elected officer’ in Belfast told him that ‘I have never seen so much unadulterated hatred as currently directed toward the trans community’. He also claimed in his report, which is to be presented to the government, that an anonymous MP remarked that ‘there is more fear in the streets than there used to be’.

And if those encounters weren’t sufficient to drive home his case, he cited a ‘Welsh civil society representative’ who bemoaned the ‘frequent posting of messages on Twitter by a prominent politician that appeared to be opposed to LGBT persons’ equal enjoyment of human rights’.

But I have found it hard to square these descriptions with the tolerant, diverse and accepting society that I know the UK to be.

Debbie Hayton must be the most hated transsexual in the UK as they keep looking at the troons and pointing out their vile behaviour, to the great embarrassment of the TRAs.

[–]Haylstorm 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I like how the UN still think anyone gives a shit about what they say.

I'd take them more seriously if they actually tried to tackle Saudi Arabia and it's issues rather than giving them a seat on the women's rights commission.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, that's like asking a wolf to sit in on the discussions of safety for sheep.

[–]Haylstorm 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Seriously though, why would anyone listen to them with that sort of attitude? You're not making me think you have a point when you put known violators of human rights in that role. Not really great if you want people to listen lol.

Not to mention everyone ignores the UN anyway, they just want to pretend they're relevant.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The UN, other than the Security Council, seems to serve very little purpose other than to protect the human rights abusers from scrutiny by playing “look squirrels!”.

[–]Haylstorm 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Which is why I ignore them. Maybe tackle the big issues like actual abuses not the places where someone is MEAN on twitter. Pathetic from the UN.

[–]QueenBread 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Debbie Hayton is awesome. Dude's like "yep, I went trans because I have an autogynephilia fetish, like many other transwomen. And I have all the rights I want so I don't understand what are these trans rights, aparts from pervs trying to access women and kids".

[–]Femaleisnthateful 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I don't think Debbie has called himself AGP, but he shifted from originally believing himself to be some kind of woman, to acknowledging that he's a man and that woman souls aren't a thing.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah Debbie says that he has very severe gender dysphoria which he saw a psychiatrist for years to attempt to manage before finally being forced to resort to hormones and surgery as he was suicidal and unable to function.

Crucially, he never claims to be a woman and is very clear about that. As far as he is concerned he transitioned because he had no other choice and he had been through years of counselling and psychiatric treatment and nothing was working.

I’m inclined to believe his story because he is quite clear that he isn’t a woman, he doesn’t wish to appropriate womanhood, and he puts thought into how other feel about his presence.

He’s one of those classic old fashioned transsexuals, they existed, made no fuss and made no demands other than to be left alone. They didn’t need anyone to validate them.

[–]QueenBread 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If I'm not mistaken, he did call himself AGP. I really applaud his honesty and lucidity. He might be the only he that I would accept calling a she - precisely because he doesn't demand that.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

As in general the best response to "I've never seen so much hatred directed at X" is simply to say, show me.

If there's loads of it out it should be super easy to get it.

[–]Haylstorm 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Probably because they'd show you twitter and someone saying men aren't women is so much hatred.

[–]OuroborosTheory 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

like the "neo-Nazi wave" that supposedly happened when Musk bought Twitter and fired all the people with identical haircuts, but it was just the reporter searching for the term "neo-Nazi"

[–]Wanderingthehalls 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Someone in BELFAST!!!!! has never seen such unadulterated hatred as that currently directed at the trans community???? I must have missed all the shootings and bombings they've been subject to. Did they at least get the traditional 3 day cessation of violence for Christmas?

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t know about the Christmas ceasefire but they/them did get a phone call with a coded warning.

[–]bife_de_lomo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hmmm, the very same Victor Madrigal-Borloz who received $300,000 in donations from the Arcus foundation.

Seems like a his opinion might be somewhat compromised...