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[–]Femaleisnthateful 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

They've made it impossible to be a true 'ally'. In my observation of my coworkers and family, the ones who blindly support this stuff are the ones who know the least about it.

[–]Haylstorm 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Honestly their nutters make it hard to support the reasonable ones.

Like shit man I'm sorry you feel like you're in the wrong body and I think you should have appropriate support there. But I don't think that your delusion means you can have an all access pass to women's spaces. There are reasonable trans people that agree with this completely but you don't hear them over the screeching of the crazies who think that they belong in a women's domestic violence shelter.

[–]OuroborosTheory 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I mean their whole rationale is "I wouldn't feel safe around males in the bathroom or changing room" and everyone else can say "yeah, no shit"

like, most men aren't going to whirl around and yell "it's rapin' time!" if a woman walks into the can, but the stereotype is of a hunchbacked, balding, unwashed, freak wearing Mother's panties, taking photos, and tugging it so they might want to put some effort into gatekeeping against that

[–]Haylstorm 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Tbh when you look up that statistics of Transwomen and sex offences it also adds another layer of wariness to wanting the in those spaces. Like it's not a fetish for everyone but you probably want to gatekeep those out if you don't want people to get that impression.

Not to mention there's this really....creepy? undertone when some transwomen post about not feeling safe in male bathrooms that just has this off vibe. Like that's what they want to happen if that makes sense? It's seriously offputting.

[–]OuroborosTheory 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

something else TRAs and TERFs can agree on--constant simmering rape fantasies! no wonder they both want to be rape-shelter counselors so bad, ugh

[–]Femaleisnthateful 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A lot of AGP fantasies are deeply connected to objectification. I've seen so many trans memes and posts about finding sexual harassment validating. Also victimhood is a central tenet of their identities so it makes sense that they would seek it out.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think we've seen that affirming people in their delusions only makes them feel worse. Look at all the troons breaking down because they can't handle being 'misgendered' or some nonsense. I watched a YouTube video from some HSTS describing how he quit his job recently because he was clocked at work. An identity centred on a false reality is doomed to self-destruct.

[–]LyingSpirit472 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly, the reason I can still support the reasonable ones is the firm knowledge the nutters are Dark Triad pieces of shit, and if they weren't demanding special treatment for being trans they'd demand special treatment for some other reason.

They just cloak themselves in trans rights because it's the only group who heard them flat-out say "we don't have equality until you raise me, personally, on a pedestal and let me live a life of decadence where my every whim is fulfilled the second I have it", and said "yes, that's right. We NEED to raise this person on a pedestal!"