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[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Journalist Virginia Sole-Smith appeared on the show on Tuesday to discuss her new book Fat Talk: Parenting in the Age of Diet Culture which includes the theory that fat phobia can be traced back to the end of slavery in the US.

Her argument is that when slavery was abolished and African Americans started gaining rights, white supremacists sought to maintain old inequalities by demonizing black bodies and glamorizing thinness.

'This is really about maintaining systems of white supremacy and patriarchy,' she said on the show.

It’s interesting how fucking convoluted the evil plans of the patriarchy are, instead of just using their overwhelming power and access to the machinery of state to subjugate their victims they create these Byzantine, subtle plans that take decades and even centuries to come to fruition - despite the fact that not a single government in the Anglosphere seems capable of operating with any effective means planning beyond a decade or so and that is with the help of the electorate.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

What you've just described is pretty much the foundation of all conspiracy thinking and rationalizing. It also serves to explain why (and simultaneously, at that) there is both no evidence of the great conspiracy and everything can be evidence of the great conspiracy. The conspiracist is so invested in pinning responsibility to who- or whatever they've decided is the source of all of their problems that they will construct these elaborate towers of reasoning to justify their investment.

Anyone who comes along and points out the much simpler and (likely) more accurate explanation is derided as refusing to accept the "truth," typically because they're an agent of or shill for the conspiracist's responsible party. It's almost like a cult, except that you can't actually deprogram or otherwise break them loose from their delusions. Because they treat the very attempt as proof that they're right and that their enemy is trying to silence them.

And it's both hilarious and sad that I'm saying this on Saidit which, almost daily, offers lots of examples of this mindset in action.

[–]OuroborosTheory 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

after all, there's only ONE group capable of literally erasing every fingerprint of its involvement!

and it's the

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly! Oh, but don't forget, when you do find a fingerprint, it's because they meant for you to find it and not because someone else put it there to make you think it was them!

[–]Adventurous_Ad6212 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Quiet you dissenter. The cis hetero nerotypical patriarchy is continually oppressing overweight black women and trans babies. Stop participating in the genocide of marginalized communities.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Those poor, poor marginalised trans babies!

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Man, I didn't realize how much of a cross burning, Hitler heiling Nazi I was until only recently. Here I thought that treating everyone with equal respect was my way out, but that was only the first of my many genocidal crimes against humanity.

[–]MagicMike 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Objective justice is a European and European diaspora concept. In other cultures, you oppress if you can or get oppressed if you can’t. That’s why, for example, black people vote monolithically Democrat: so they can oppress everyone else. Big city mayors and city councils oppress YT (whitey) to the point where YT flees and they run out of taxpayers (blacks don’t think long term).

[–]LyingSpirit472 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

...and here I thought that if you have a whole group of people who are forced to toil all day in the fields and work themselves to the bone, while getting just enough food to subsist on or less...aren't exactly going to be very fat. (On the opposite side, if you have a group of people enslaving those people, NOT working all day in the fields, and getting to eat their fill every night on the backs of their labor- those people are going to be fatter than their slaves.)

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 5 insightful - 7 fun5 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Now listen here, logic and reasoning are products of the European enlightenment and as such are tools of the patriarchal white supremacy and using them to negate the arguments of a proud WoC is just a demonstration of how we exist in a world that wishes to subjugate black and brown bodies. You monster!

[–]UncleWillard56 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Hilarious. Like they're not already keeping themselves down with all their excuses.

[–]BISH 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

NPR guest and author of 'Fat Talk' claims people's desire to be slim stems from end of slavery

Is she suggesting that black, former, slaves.. were obese?

This may be the craziest "parenting book" I've ever heard of.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

If you literally just look at black people in Africa right now they are half the size of black people in America.

[–]BISH 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

If you literally just look at black people in Africa right now they are half the size of black people in America.

The average African is half the size of everyone in America. There's an obesity epidemic across all ethnicities. Particularly in impoverished populations.

Even the children are fat.

Because all Americans are being poisoned by processed foods, etc. And normal physical activity is at near-record lows.

Find a photo of any American from before 1980, and they'll have a normal body type.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=1970s+public+photo

Being overweight by 20 lbs was considered fat, and shameful in those times.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

You are cherry picking young people though.

If I go back through my family photos among the olds and middle aged there were a fair amount of fatties. Not American sized fats, that wasn't a thing.

[–]Wanderingthehalls 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

We're they that fat though? I was looking through childhood photos a few years back. And the photos of my friend who was the fattest kid in our class were of a very normal looking kid. In the 80s we all saw her as fat but now she would be utterly unremarkable. I wouldn't even think of the kid in the photo as fat except that I lived through thinking of her as fat.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Like I say, not American fat but still fat.

[–]Alphix 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

And pharmaceutical poisons.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

And yet I read articles about how the desire for curvy bodies or Brazilian butt lifts stems from the 'appropriation' of black bodies.

Basically everything is racist

[–]Alphix 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I object! I am a land whale and I identify as a Nazi!

[–]MagicMike 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Black women are more fat and have fat asses because they couldn’t rely on Tyrone to bring home a wildebeest to cook up.

[–]Godknight 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

2000: Feminism

2010: SJWs and NPCs

2020: Transgenderism

2030: Transslenderism

[–]M1GarandDad 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I can't help but notice it's NEVER a fat man trying to make obesity a designated victim class. It's only fat women or "women" comparing themselves to literal slaves.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was watching a discussion about this, I am blanking on where, and it was pointed out that fat men accept that they’re fat and all that comes with it and don’t expect anyone to find them attractive and as a result there’s zero reason for them to complain. The few, and it is only a few despite the media claims, that do complain get called “incels” and are ostracised, mocked and ignored and considered a terroristic threat when convenience requires a boogeyman.

I’m coming round to the idea that the female-led “fat acceptance” movement is nothing more than the female “incels”, but instead of being treated like male incels, they get fawned over and treated like victims, largely because of the critical social justice takeover of the media and government.

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I remember when nigras used to claim computers were "hard" deliberately to fuck over black people. Nigra men don't want to fuck a fat ass she-boon. Nobody does. Get over it.

[–]SerpensInferna 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I have discovered, the three things that piss me off, in this order, are:

1) trannies 2) fat chicks 3) niggers

Niggers are last because they are so low IQ they literally can't help themselves, and the best thing they can do is plan their immigration to reintegrate back to Africa.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Sometimes a person is all 3