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[–]IMissPorn 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

You are right that it's not all, but not about the details. It covers all penetration and attempts at penetration which cause injury, and also oral sex; by someone 18+ with a child under 12.

How about lukewarm opposition? I actually do think it's a bad law. My biggest objection is that when you consider the reality of child molestation (namely that it's usually someone close to the victim) this is going to make it even more emotionally difficult to report. And in a more "stranger danger" type of scenario, what if the rapist thinks "Well, if my life's on the line anyway, better not leave a witness"? I see bad outcomes in both cases. Whether the additional deterrence of death compared to life without parole justifies those drawbacks seems very doubtful.

But I still can't figure out how it's an attack on LGBTs...

[–]fuck_redditThou/Thee/Thy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Another issue is it lowers the jury vote for the death penalty from unanimous to 8/12. But that has nothing to do with gays or child rape

[–]IMissPorn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah. Not a fan of that either.

Heck if any threshold should be lowered to 8/12 it's the threshold for acquittal. Always though it was dumb that it despite the government supposedly having the burden of proof it still had to be unanimous. Why should they get to try again just because they convinced 1 or 2 jurors? If 8 people say no, doesn't that essentially prove reasonable doubt exists?

[–]LyingSpirit472 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah- heck, I'd lower the threshold for acquittal as low as 6/12: If half of a jury or more think you probably didn't do it, that's at reasonable doubt.

The death penalty should always be at unanimous from the jury- if someone's life is in your hands, it needs to be 100% etched in stone "this person absolutely did it, there is no question in anyone's minds they did it, and because of this, they must die for what they did."

[–]ClassroomPast6178 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I’m anti-death penalty full stop. I think the state should not be in the business of killing its citizens and I think that you’re absolutely right about the perverse incentives and that it could possibly cause more child deaths. I also don’t think that paedos can be deterred once they’re actually if a kind to start offending, but I don’t know what the solution is.

[–]IMissPorn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Me too honestly, mostly because I just don't trust the justice system not to make mistakes. But also think expanding it beyond murder is even more misguided.

[–]LyingSpirit472 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The sad thing was, forced castration could have been a non-lethal way to stop pedos who are at the point where they're offending- but now we're seeing that castration would just be used as an excuse to get to do whoever you want, whenever you want.