LOL WUTMy body my choice, keep your laws out of my reproductive system! - Wait, not like that! Woman suing sperm donor for being prolific.

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[–]According-Junket-885 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

This guy is the modern Genghis Khan.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, those European DNA ancestry companies are going to start having to test for Dutch Musician alongside Viking, Ghengis Khan and Neanderthal.

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

"We have the results of your testing back, and we can confirm that you're related someone noteworthy in European history?"

"Wait, really? Oh, was it a painter or statesman? Oh, please tell me it's not the Habsburgs!"

"No, no, you're not related to anyone like that, especially not the latter. No, your famous ancestor is some guy in the Netherlands who achieved fame for fathering hundreds of kids throughout Europe by donating sperm! Isn't that great?"

cue BSoD

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Your great, great, great grand-father was The Walloon Wanker!

[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I looked at the comments for this, and was startled by the number of people just shitting on him for his looks. Like what he did is a problem specifically because he's ugly or something.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The comments were disgraceful and wouldn’t have been allowed past the moderator had this been about a woman.

Then again, woebetide anyone who would dare tell a woman to stop/start having babies.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Stories like this are why we need better regulations (if not total abolition) of assisted reproduction.

There are a lot of details missing here. Are there supposed to be limits on how much sperm (or eggs) a donor can provide? How much information are recipients entitled to have about donors?

Is the woman's grievance just the heightened risk of her child having an unintentional relationship with a genetic sibling in the future? If that's the case, why go this route at all?

Maybe choose to have children with a man you can trust and who actually wants to be a father? Society is going to get really fucked up by all of this.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I've always just kind of considered that if the pregnancy won't get going naturally for whatever reason that just means you aren't "fit" for reproduction from an evolutionary standpoint.

Doesn't mean you aren't fit to contribute to society, doesn't mean you are worthless as a human or even a parent (adoption).

Does mean that maybe for whatever reason we shouldn't be continuing genetic lines that don't work?

[–]Femaleisnthateful 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I would appreciate fertility 'medicine' more if it actually addressed the underlying causes of fertility issues. Instead Big Fertility works to circumvent them with increasingly Orwellian techniques. An egg from a donor here, sperm from there, put them in a Ukrainian surrogate, sell the baby to its buyers (if the buyers don't bail or order an abortion first), and let some polyamourous clan raise it as a theyby. These kids are going to grow up without a biological anchor to their own heritage, and no one's thought about the implications of this.

[–]Alienhunter糞大名 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sure fixing the underlying problem so things can work normally or close enough. That's medicine. No problems there.

I wonder what's going to happen when you've got sexual or race selection "designer babies" coming round. Like imagine if a parent paid like $30,000 for an infertile hermaphrodite baby or some shit like that and the child grew up to regret it.

Like we, we have our problems and our identity crisis and whatnot, but we can't blame our parents really for our genetic problems, we have to blame god.

But a designer baby holy shit, that's all on the parents, and holy shit that's going to be a whole kettle of worms once someone opens that up.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

A Dutch musician is facing court in a bid to get him to stop his 'obsessive' sperm donating amid claims he has fathered hundreds of children around the world.

Jonathan Jacob Meijer, 41, has misled hundreds of women all over the world and may have fathered nearly 550 children, according to the Donorkind Foundation, which is suing him.

Mr Meijer, from The Hague, Netherlands, was blacklisted in 2017 after the Dutch Society of Obstetrics and Gynaecology warned he had fathered 102 children via ten different clinics in the Netherlands.

But he continued to donate abroad in Denmark and Ukraine and offered his services through websites and social media, according to the Dutch news website AD.

Eva, the Dutch woman at the centre of the court case, had a child by Mr Meijer in 2018 and said it made her feel 'sick to her stomach' that he had fathered so many children.

She said: 'If I had known he had already fathered more than 100 children I would never have chosen him.

'If I think about the consequences this could have for my child I am sick to my stomach.

'Many mothers have told him he needs to stop, but nothing helps. So going to court is the only option I have to protect my child.'

Eva and the Donorkind Foundation want to stop Mr Meijer donating and to find out exactly which clinics he has donated sperm to.

They have accused Mr Meijer of 'lying' to hundreds of women about the number of children he has fathered.

Eva also wants all his sperm still in storage to be destroyed, unless it has been reserved for a woman who already has one of his children.

Ties van der Meer, the foundation's chairman, said: 'We are taking action against this man because national government is doing nothing.

'He has a global reach via internet and he does business with large, international sperm banks.'

Donorkind's lawyer Mark de Hek said: 'This behavior is dangerous for the mental well-being and health of donor children. By preferring his reproductive urge, the donor is acting unlawfully.

'In addition, he violates the agreements with the clinics and with the prospective parents, because they trusted his promise that he would father a maximum of 25 children.'

[–]Haylstorm 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Imagine being the kid that needs genetic testing with your partner just in case you had the same sperm donor lol. That's an absolutely insane number of kids.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Literally, Iceland. Although they have an app so you can check that you’re not hitting on your sister at the bar.

[–]Haylstorm 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Seriously though, imagine meeting a wife in another country and she's your half sister. At least Iceland is aware of it haha.

[–]ClassroomPast6178[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I had a girl in my class a few years ago who suffered from the severe effects of consanguineous marriage. Severe learning difficulties and physical problems. Not at all a rare occurrence in people from rural Pakistan and Afghanistan where keeping property within the family, and therefore marrying within the family, has been going on for generations. A study within the Pakistani community in Bradford, England found that that community accounted for something like one in six of all birth defects in the country.

[–]Haylstorm 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Poor girl.

Genuinely crazy how high it is in that community, I know at one point they were considering offering genetic testing to that group to try and eliminate any issues beforehand but I'm not sure how far that got. Really hope they can go forwards with it and prevent a lot of pain.

[–]hfxB0oyADon't piss on my head & tell me it's raining. 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I assume the concern is that a kid could end up fucking their half sibling, but even in the Netherlands, the chances are still very low.