Is equality over?

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I've had a thought on which I want more opinions:

I was born in the 1990s when there was still this massive push for the idea that everyone is equal, no matter sex or ethnicity.

Starting in the 2010s there was a shift away from equality, and over towards identity politics. It seemed as if overnight we went from treating everyone as equals to only focusing on identity.

There was a reddit post where someone shared they are White, and have an adopted sister who is Black. They were raised together from young ages, and their parents treated them equally. When sister reached the age of 18, she got a DNA test to find her birth family, and rapidly abandoned the family that raised her. Now as an adult, she hates the family that raised her because they stole her away from her Black parents, stole her Black identity away from her, raised her White, etc.

The comments were full of commenters expressing hatred for interracial adoptions, people must remain in their respective cultures, and treating people of different races as equals is actually exetremely racist because racial identities must be put upfront & center!

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[–]jet199 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I think there's been a move away from proper research in the social sciences and towards anecdotal evidence.

Take the example of inter racial adoption. The research across many decades and different countries shows that kids adopted by parents of a different race have the same outcomes and the same level of unhappiness with their adopted family as people adopted by parents of the same race.

However from the point of view of many people who were raised in inter racial adoption all their feelings of otheness and rootlessness are due to race. In fact it's the case all adopted kids have these feelings to some extent.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The growth of ethnography and especially, autoethnography, was really the death of the social sciences as rigorous endeavours. Gone was the painstaking collection of data and observations from dispassionate, disinterested researchers, to be replaced by personal anecdotes and unevidenced assertions from activists masquerading as researchers.

It’s obvious why it’s been done, it’s both easier and you don’t get pesky results that upset your carefully crafted assertions and assumptions.

Add to that the frankly disgraceful citation laundering that goes on, editors and reviewers waving their friends’ and accomplices’ articles through peer review without verifying their theses (and acting all indignant when caught out).

So it’s not really any wonder why what was once viewed as “providing a child a much-needed, home with loving parents” has become a vile act of white supremacy and cultural imperialism.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I'll probably get shit for saying it but I think that movement has coincided with colleges push to bring in more women.

Not that there aren't very smart extremely capable women that need to be in academics. There are, but I think that when you bring in a large influx of women into what has been developed as a traditionally male institution you get a lot of the "women's study major" stereotype. Where they take things personally or very emotionally as for what's supposed to be a dispassionate academic discussion.

I think when it comes to women's issue specifically it very much difficult for the average person and especially the average woman to have a dispassionate logical discussion about horrible things like rape genocide etc. But unless we can play devils advocate and discuss ideas that are frankly offensive to the general public we can't really learn about what makes the world tick.

Like if we were to do a statistical analysis of the outcomes of kids that were adopted and compare them against kids that were not we might find that kids that are adopted are less likely to be successful in life and some very emotional undergrad or the general public may well interpret that as "adoption is bad" or "adopted kids are inferior" which is far from the truth. The emotional reality of it is of course that adoption is a good thing, and that ideally the adopted kid is exactly the same as a genetically related child, that's the ceremonial purpose of adoption to erase such a distinction. But reality doesn't exactly follow the ideal and any number of complication can occur that are worthy of study and understanding, but that doesn't indicate the underlying condition itself is bad.

[–]exiled_from_reddit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'll probably get shit

You will. Implying 'women in academic contexts are less rational than men' is a wild claim which demands solid evidence. You provided none.

[–]Tums_is_Smut_bkwrds 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Racism is nothing more or less than Race Realism. And how could that be wrong?

You can only really understand these issues in the context they were started. Every single thing that has fairness or equality at its core is the result of the Frankfurt School. I'm talking, of course, about Cultural Marxism.

And what the Cultural Marxists want is power. The push for equality is ultimately a grab for power. The unavoidable consequence being that, ironically, what is supposed to be about equality actually becomes one person forcing their will upon others. This is of course how communism played out, resulting in 100+ million dead, so far.

So when it results in the opposite of what was intended -- such as the example OP gives -- this is no surprise. Because the undertaking is morally bankrupt and corrupt, no matter how honest and altruistic the participants intend to be.

On that note the whole Climate Crisis is the same deal. It's different from Cultural Marxism in that it's using science for its justification, but otherwise it's just a power grab working towards subjugating the populace. The cult of Climate Change has twisted and manipulated the scientific process to serve their purpose, ironically making it the opposite of science. Otherwise the so-called climate crusaders would lose all support faster than you can stridently scold "How dare you". Because there is no climate crisis.

Commie bastards who would rather see you dead than allow you to object to them imposing their will upon you are very real, however.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The cultural Marxism is what started in the 2010s

[–]clownworlddropout 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, we went backwards but they call it progress. Identity politics is poison, we're all individuals, period! Like, if you take intersectionality to it's logical conclusion you're left with the individual, right? The social sciences need serious reform, they've gone off the rails.

[–]LyingSpirit472 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not a bug, but a feature of the people who support identity politics.

Never forget, the people pushing identity politics over equality are the grifters. They are in it for themselves, they know they're in it for themselves, they made the conscious decision to destroy equality with hatred for the other in exchange for their own personal power and a chance to turn social equality into their chance to play Harry Potter with their friends. They are openly sending society back to the 1950s social justice-wise, and they're doing it because in their minds if society goes back to the '50s then they can reroll history so THEY, PERSONALLY, get to be MLK this time. And they'll tell you this to your face, and they'll laugh because they know they've already won because they have more of a following and an identity that means they can play the wounded gazelle and take out anyone they want.

They know 'you take intersectionality to its logical conclusion you're left with the individual', that's the endgame of "once intersectionality has been accepted, they can say 'and therefore, that's why the only true equality is to make me, personally, the God of this new world. Worship me or you're an -ist or -phobe!"

[–]UncleWillard56 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We've replaced "equality" with "equity." One is the idea that everyone should have the same opportunities to succeed in life regardless of their demographic, the other is equality of outcome regardless of merit or qualification and based solely upon characteristics you have no control over.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There's no such thing - and never has been - as equality. No two human beings on the planet are equal in ability or intelligence.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The matrix

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm afraid so. Peace never lasts in a world like this.

[–]cant_even 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"Equality" was a hoax from the beginning, because only one 'race' has ever been held accountable for its actions, except that 'race' is supposedly also to blame for the actions of all the others.

Show me anywhere on Earth where the spirit of "equality" is the 'default' condition without a government force standing in the background.

"Equality" is a civic religion that absolutely requires a Capital-C civilization to imagine, implement and enforce it.

It isn't found in nature, where every life-form more complicated than a mollusk organizes under hierarchical principles.

The proposition held by some that it's 'good', doesn't make it any more durable in an uncivilized setting.

The "tear-it-down" faction on the interwebs and media, who are eager to dismantle the current order for some anarcho-communitarian utopia, will find anything but 'equality' if/when they "succeed".

[–]YJaewedwqewq 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Nature is healing. The "everyone is equal and identical" lie is why we're here discussing gays and trannies grooming/raping kids and using the state as a cudgel (or trying to) against anyone who speaks out.

[–]Vulptexghost fox girl ^w^ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nature cannot go on forever