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[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Well, I would just caution you against thinking any leftist political party will not, over time, turn into something like the Democratic Party (or the CPSU or the CCP): hierarchical, corporatist (not really capitalist per se, but very much invested in a few large, highly regulated organizations), authoritarian, war-happy. What leftist political party with a modicum of power has not become this? What evidence is there that some "real" leftist political party could exist? How would it redistribute wealth without kicking people in the teeth and starting wars? It may be a completely nonsensical, utopian idea.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Right now wealth is already being redistributed, it's just going into the hands of the oligarchs. Telling oligarchs to that they need to pay higher taxes so the roads don't fall apart isn't oppression.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, "oppression" is kind of subjective... I consider mask mandates and DUI laws oppressive, but most people disagree.

Still, it cannot be denied that "telling oligarchs that they need to pay higher taxes so the roads don't fall apart" requires a big, armed bureaucracy. And big, armed bureaucracies don't just let their rifles rust in a barn. So I'll go back to what I already said: I don't believe there ever has been a "real" leftist party that doesn't resemble the Democratic Party, nor will there be, nor can their be.