LOL WUTTwitter making a strawman trying to justify that fiction equals reality

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[–]LordoftheFliesAmeri-kin 2.0. Pronouns: MegaWhite/SuperStraight/UltraPatriarchy 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

If enjoying a particular bit of fiction is an endorsement of whatever bad things that fiction may contain, then the second poster better ditch anything that they own with a "Made in China" label on it. Because that's an endorsement of child labor, slave labor, ethnic cleansing, authoritarian repression, colonialism, imperialism, and environmental destruction.

[–]GrilledTofuIdentifying as a block of tofu[S] 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

For context, there's an annoying size sample of people on Tumblr/Twitter/Tiktok that think that every fiction you consume is an endorsement of everything that's within it. For example, if you read a murder mystery you defintiely condone crime and murder!

[–]ClassroomPast6178 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It’s a very childlike attitude. I wonder if the coddling that children get these days has made them less able to separate fiction and reality, or appreciate that enjoying a story about something doesn’t mean you endorse the actions of the characters. It would explain an awful lot of the reactions to, for instance, lectures by contentious speakers or about contentious subjects being protested on university campuses. They can’t separate discussion of a topic from endorsement of the topic.

I have a horrible feeling that there’s an entire generation that is irredeemably fucked.

[–]GrilledTofuIdentifying as a block of tofu[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It would explain an awful lot of the reactions to, for instance, lectures by contentious speakers or about contentious subjects being protested on university campuses

Yeah, it really does.

I'm reminded about that poor kid in Afghanistan who acted in a movie called The Kite Runner. Fuelled by either envy or backwards mentality, the community severely bullied the kid actor because their character was a bully or something. You'd think it's just backwards people doing backwards thing in an oppressed isolated country.

Then I looked at Twitter and discovered that this dumb mentality is not limited to Afghanistan.

[–]Athelhilda4 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it has more to do with social isolation and being lonely, although helicopter parents do contribute to their children being isolated. These people can’t tell reality from fiction, because they spend so much time in their rooms that reality IS fiction to them.

[–]LyingSpirit472 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly, I would give the more positive, more insidious excuse for it of "they are such stans for their own fandom they believe enjoying literally any form of entertainment that ISN'T their own fandom makes you literally, inherently evil."

The tiebreaker would be that in these forms of fiction, if a character does something seen as evil in the real world, EVEN IF the story shows the character is a villain, EVEN IF the heroes malign the character for that, EVEN IF the villains turn on this person and say "yo, yo, get the fuck out of here, I mean, I'm evil, but even I HAVE STANDARDS!", EVEN IF the whole story screeches to a halt as every character down to extras go on a conga line using real world examples to say how evil the person is- they'll say "you support [x] because of this character!"

[–]Cass 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wonder if the coddling that children get these days has made them less able to separate fiction and reality

judging by how they react over fanfiction and fanart, maybe

[–]r2d2_21 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You can watch violent and immoral stuff without admiring the character. It's an option. We promise.

[–]redditmademedoit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wonder what they think about Amos Burton

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Wait until they hear about Shakespeare

[–]SaidOverRed 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you. It's time to make fiction moral again. I'm so done with degeneracy.

[–]ShekelPa 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

So can they explain why they destroyed the gaming, movie, tv, comic book industry without connecting the content to all the characteristics they hate about their non-cultist followers? Because it sounds to me they would have had no problem letting us enjoy our content as it once was if they firmly believed the shit they are spewing now.

[–]ClassroomPast6178 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Part of the reason they destroyed games, DnD, movies, comics etc is the sheer thrill of exerting power over others. They never had any intention of playing DnD, but they saw others having fun and so used their cultural power (for “oppressed” people have you noticed how they always seem to get their way over things?) to force the makers to conform to their will, and once that was done they moved on.

Later this year, we will see the destruction of Tolkien, when Amazon’s LotR spin off screens.

[–]meisthebigdumbTransracial BlackX Rockgender Bispecies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree with this mostly but if it's about cp then it does explain a lot about their character

[–]Athelhilda4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

By this definition, Thomas Harris is a cannibal serial killer.

[–]TotoroDeams 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I see you'll make it tomorrow has watched a Serbian Film. I kid, but what the fuck is with these people always going to the most insane fucking examples?

[–]Financial_Panther 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People tend to use logical fallacies to sway the masses or "win" arguments when their own positions are weak. In this case, I think they built a strawman because they lack the intellectual capacity to grapple the point they're arguing against.

[–]Para0234 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I enjoy warhammer 40 000, and especially the Imperium.

Still doesn't make me a space turbonazi.