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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

Dude.... you only mentioned neo-con warhawks... there are others you should mention.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Fair enough. I see these as the most obvious clowns.

I recall that Carter was annoying as a president partly because he was a micromanager and terrible as a politician. Since the time of his presidency he's been wonderful.

I like J.F. Kennedy very much, but he was a bit of a clown for openly pissing off the wrong people.

Obama's second term was lame, and he screwed up politically in the second half of his first term. So - partial clown.

Clinton's clowning around included the deregulation deals he made with the Repuglicans. Real stupid. Still one of the cleverest political animals to grace the executive branch.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

I like J.F. Kennedy very much, but he was a bit of a clown for openly pissing off the wrong people.

That's an odd statement. He pissed off all the right people and if he and his brother weren't assassinated what is now AIPAC and ALL zionist lobby corps. would be registered as foreign agents.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

He pissed off all the right people

But he did not do this openly, and should have done it in secret, strategically (as has happened for CIA, FBI and other agencies; think of the Iran/Contra scandal)

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

What? H e did it covertly. He worked his way up to power and before being elected acted extremely pro-Israel whilst his brother was trying to make AIPAC a foreign agent.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Yes, though he famously made mistakes of talking to the wrong people during the process.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Like who? Schlesinger?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Among others.

Also John McCone

And Lyndon Johnson

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

There's a book I have where JFK mentions that Johnson was setting him up... as in he had to make him VICE just to become president just as he had to pander to the Zionists in his campaign before turning on them.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

name of the book?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think most people don't understand how Israel influenced US politics in the 50s and 60s. It was brutal. I also wonder why other members of the Kennedy family have not dared to speak of any of the problems with Johnson and Israel. Only recent publications are dealing with the latter, but hardly anyone understands Johnson's connections. Also, Israel was never going to allow JFK to interrupt their nuclear program, which was perhaps their most important ambition in the early '60s.