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[–]magnora7 11 insightful - 8 fun11 insightful - 7 fun12 insightful - 8 fun -  (2 children)

Okay...

So apparently, judging by what I'm seeing, he has just walked away from saidit entirely. Because day before yesterday /u/AXXA changed the rules, and I changed them back, and d3rr had some sort of meltdown about being admin (which was entirely unrelated to the rule change issue) and just left I guess... pretty rash but I understand. He did content admin work for the last 6 months and it was wearing on him, but I had done it for the 2.5 years prior. I thought d3rr was doing a good job moderating the content on saidit, even better than me, honestly.

He was wanting to clarify the rules, so we were building a rule clarification page. This was yesterday.

I talked about opening a new site with higher quality rules, I talked about finding new admins.

I guess he realized he could just walk away, so he did. Funny he did it right after I revealed the reason I had to take a break 6 months ago, which was the admin duties being overwhelming.

Not a great move by d3rr here. Especially deleting the account seems counterproductive. I wish he had used his words and we could've developed a solution instead of making a sudden exit, but that's his choice I guess.

I enjoyed working with him and we've done some great things, and I thought our conversations about the rule clarifications were going in a good way, and now this. But there's always been a bit of tension between us, especially the last couple years, and I'm not sure why, and I try hard to overcome that and but it can be difficult.

So I guess I'm back to running this show again. I still don't know why he deleted his account other than to make some sort of "statement" about how done he is with it. But apparently not only admining it, but also participating at all. I hope he comes back some day. But if he doesn't I guess that's okay too, luckily everything is registered by me, so this won't affect the website being up.

Sucks. I guess I'm running this site again now. D3rr if you see this, I understand and forgive you, it's not a big deal, I don't know why we couldn't work together on this when saidit is currently growing. It hurts, but if it needed to happen then it needed to happen. I walked away too so I can't blame him too much. But I didn't delete my damn account...

His main thing is he was just tired of doing the admin duties 85% by himself (which is what I did for 2.5 years so I totally understand) but we were working toward a solution of rule clarification to help other admins be trained properly to take some workload off of him. But I guess he just decided he was sick of it, and he's done. Deleting the account was an overraction though, but whatever. Saidit will live on.

/u/AXXA do you have any insight on this event?

[–]raven9 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

I read the conversation about the rules I did not understand the point about changing or making a new rule about name calling when name calling is already clearly illustrated as a no-no in the saidit pyramid of debate.

https://saidit.net/static/PyramidDebate.jpg

It seems to me all they need to do is encourage users to use the report button if they see offensive name calling and then as moderators they can decide whether to delete the comment or not. If no one complains about it just leave it.

[–]magnora7 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I agree name-calling could be merged with ad hominem in the pyramid. It was part of the original Grahams Hierarchy of Debate. But I agree upon further reflection the 'name calling' category is too subjective and meaningless.