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[–]magnora7 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (25 children)

Well the coding to rate limit posts to 1 per 3 hours is so easy an amateur could do it, so in that sense, yes!

This is what you don't understand. You think it's a 5-hour project, but because of how complex our codebase is, it's probably more like a 30-hour project. You're welcome to do this 30+ hours of work. Go for it.

You aren't allowed to edit site code, but you can submit code that we would review. You don't seem to understand this either.

[–]christnmusicreleases 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (24 children)

Then you don't understand trojan code injection (obfuscated code helps here). You're a security risk for your own site by being ignorant of that.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

How can you inject a trojan if we review and understand all the code before adding it to our system? You really don't get how this works.

[–]christnmusicreleases 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

I'm not talking about a trojan in the traditional sense, I'm talking injecting not obvious code in a set of rather obfuscated code. Kind of like a Covid mRNA shot. Reread my previous comment, I've tried to break it down for you, but I guess you're obviously not skilled in this area.

Anyways, it's obvious you will never do this no matter how much users complain, so the best thing you can do is be up front about it and place it somewhere in the site rules. You'd be a fool to trust code from somebody you already mistrust, even if you are a good coder and review the code.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (15 children)

Lol you sound like a child trying to discuss something they obviously don't understand.

Telling me, on a comment using the website that I made, that I'm not skilled in this area. lmao

You're a hoot, christnmusicreleases

[–]christnmusicreleases 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

Anyways, I will consider writing the code (possibly with some additional mechanism) if you first write out your secret rule in the terms & content policy, as a gesture of good faith as a site admin of the community.

You do your part first.

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

in the terms & content policy

already done half an hour ago

Now let's see the code! :)

[–]christnmusicreleases 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (12 children)

Alright, thank you for the sign of good faith. I'm seeing a spark of light here in you, magnora.

I'm thinking, for fun, it would be nice to put random humorous error messages if you exceed the speech quota. Something akin to login quotes you get on some unix configurations.

"Citizen of Saidit, you have exceeded your daily free speech allotment. You are now on post probation for the next XX hours YY minutes. Cease and desist posting until then, and comment again!"

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Yes hopefully I will see the same from you, looking forward to that code

[–]christnmusicreleases 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

Ok, I'll brainstorm about that for the best possible implementation, but be warned it may occasionally and inadvertently change the site colors in a way that causes seizures.

[–]christnmusicreleases 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

When the code is sufficiently complex and obfuscated, you will only have a cursory understanding and will miss something very malicious that is slipped in. Sort of like Windows source code...it's really hard to review even if you have access to the entire codebase.

They have done this, for the record, in the source code for Linux and BSD already, in regards to SELinux and Mandatory Access Control in those two OS's respectively. They are essentially the open source version of NSAKEY for Windows.

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Yes but if it's such "easy" code as post limiting it will probably be 10-30 lines of code or so that will be very easy to review. It's not like we'd let someone plop 100k lines of code in to our codebase. The hard part is finding where in the 1M lines of existing code to add those 10-30 lines of code.

So that's why it wouldn't work.

[–]christnmusicreleases 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

So do the intellectually honest thing and update the rules publicly for all to see? Or are you afraid that the truth will have a chilling effect on your users?

I don't know any Reddit clone that has this degree of rate-limiting. Reddit was annoying enough that you had to build up karma to post regularly. You should be up front so that new users have no misconceptions about the free speech limitations here.

To me if you're not willing to code it, or at least write the rule, you are no better than a Reddit admin - I hope you would not stoop to such lows. Fuzzy rules that don't get announced until after you break them, with immediate consequences is not good for public discourse or any sort of commons.

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Oh now we're shifting the goalposts again to find more things to smear against me? Even though I already did the thing you wanted?

You're the worst, man. See ya.

[–]QuantumCurse 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

While his claim about the codebase is absurd (I'm not sure he knows how to code) he actually moved the goalposts in your direction.

That is, make it an obvious rule. I literally just left Reddit because I made an account there and every post I tried to make was auto-banned for reasons I couldn't comprehend. On the "irony" forum, no less, where I was trying to post an image of a 2 year old Twitter account being banned for a ridiculous reason. I couldn't even find the rules and it was just plain annoying so I gave up.

Edit: I just realized I missed the rest of the conversation. Not used to this format.

[–]christnmusicreleases 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not smearing you, I'm only recounting was has occured. Anyways, thanks for the rules update, now that we have passed that obstacle, a quickie coding update should be less of a hurdle.