Attention magnora7: My idea/solution.

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[–]theoracle[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The problem I am trying to solve is the ahole mod. The one who doesn't want his users engaging is some form of speech. I have watched countless hot topics get deleted and edited because the mod is well in my mind nuts.

The problem that federation causes is users have to jump to a different section, and they probably won't. But if you give them a button to press to disable the stupid mod and they can see people commenting on something that is hidden, and the conversation is engaging and they are interested? Well they hit that button. They then maybe start a post asking why the mod is such a retard? he bans more and more people, eventually the sub is out of his control because he has to ban so many people they just all disable him.

I want to organically neuter the retard mod.

My full idea is to abandon the sub model and just tag posts. You have mods or filters that aggregate certain tags. Notabug has this all I know but it's just not refined enough.

Hopefully go1dfish didn't get caught in the riots as notabug seems like an anarchist's creation. Notabug does seem like something Eric Weinstein would be involved in... and he is hardly a rioter :-)

BTW do you listen to The Portal?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Hm.

No I've never heard of The Portal, and probably not interested in picking up something new right now.

What do you feel isn't quite there right now with notabug?

[–]theoracle[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'll use it some more and get back to you but overall it's too hard to use, normies will never go for it like that. The collapsed posts can get so voluminous that they interfere with reading. Some basic spam moderation would be nice, guys are just going full copy pasta nuts. Spaces is confusing and seems to not work or have bugs, like in one instance I got a page full of errors and something about this looks like it is a bug or something. The vote system and collapsing I don't think are good. Half the time something is collapsed it could be worth reading but you have to spend time fishing.... it doesn't work. The Slashdot system is better, enough downvotes then collapse or hide. Notabug say you can do that with spaces but when I tried it didn't work. You have to make a space type the command in, no simple slider like slashdot. Normies will never adapt even if it did all work.

To me notabbbug comes off as a bit alpha not yet beta. I will play with it more though.

Oh and to add the majority of people who are posting are anon, so it makes it impossible to follow anyone, atleast on 4chan they have session ids. All the shitposters are anon too, so you can't turn off anon and be rid of them, and no one is doing any moderation at all it seems.

The Portal I find excellent.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Interesting. I've used nab for a little while so it's interesting to hear what someone first using thinks of it. I think I'd agree with a lot of that. And I guess it is a bit rough for normies right now.

And it is in "alpha" not yet to 1.0 I think.

[–]theoracle[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So I discovered on rereading the spaces guide that only a small part of it is actually working...so yes it is very alpha.

Someone could take up the mantle of using spaces to do some moderation, but again you need to type in every ban or deletion so it could be arduous.

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Yeah. go1dfish had some plants to rework the structure of the site some too. I guess it might not happen, but I believe there are some users there who know a lot more than I do, who've been there from the beginning. Like the person who wrote the spaces guide, I think may still be around.

[–]theoracle[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am going to go on Notabug and see if I can get the ball rolling again to improve the site.