Radical Feminist Readings: Why Does He Do That? Lundy Bancroft (Can be Accessed for Free on OpenLibrary)

Basghetti · 2021-04-26T20:47:12+00:00

Because retard.

I've seen it happen on both sides, have done it myself even, and had it done to me as well. The results are in: when we argue with other people, we are generally assholes and will go for the lowest blow possible sometimes to make our point come out as the winner-- even if that means silencing the other person or making them feel like they're not allowed to react. It's dirty, but we're stupid creatures. More extreme versions come off to me like serious control issues that might need outside help. It's unrealistic to be not pissed during an argument and just builds resentment if you feel like you can't show that.

Airbus320 · 2021-04-26T20:22:58+00:00

Airbus320 · 2021-04-26T20:06:29+00:00

Why does he do that u/basghetti?

BasicSNOW · 2021-01-28T06:17:45+00:00

It's not that simple. You can get pregnant while in your period. You can also get pregnant while on the pill.

BasicSNOW · 2021-01-28T06:16:46+00:00

I have had horrible symptoms that didn't start until I got on birth control. When I went off of it they went away. It's pretty shitty to have to risk my health just so I can have sex.

Airbus320 · 2021-01-27T14:45:40+00:00

Airbus320 · 2021-01-26T15:24:06+00:00

😮

Happy_face_doomer · 2020-10-15T07:50:20+00:00

Plz take over the sub

bald-janitor · 2020-09-02T18:04:16+00:00

🤔

bald-janitor · 2020-08-05T14:28:27+00:00

Dont listen to this person!

fahrenheit2020 · 2020-08-02T09:15:20+00:00

Keep your legs shut, take the pill, or don't complain when you get yourself pregnant and then start demanding mass sterilisation.

eta: With that said, I'm not sure who I'm trying to convince with this argument. It's clear the type of man hating mouth breathers this sub attracts have long since passed the point they were capable of conceiving, no matter how little responsibility they take for themselves.

yishengqingwa666 · 2020-08-01T02:29:22+00:00

Keep your d$$$ in your pants, wear a condom, or don't complain if a woman gets pregnant and you are saddled with child support for 18 years.

yishengqingwa666 · 2020-08-01T02:27:49+00:00

You are lying.

yishengqingwa666 · 2020-08-01T02:27:10+00:00

Vasectomies are minimally invasive, inexpensive and reversible. It is NOTHING like a hysterectomy.

bald-janitor · 2020-07-23T18:59:46+00:00

bald-janitor · 2020-07-23T18:57:43+00:00

🤢

radfem · 2020-07-22T21:07:19+00:00

Buddy you have one source and it doesn’t even support you argument.

There’s no legal requirement for spousal consent and no minimum age for vasectomy other than the minimum age of consent. But while it’s not necessary to have spousal consent, it’s a really good idea, and involving the spouse in the decision is encouraged.

Meaning literally no doctor is telling any young unmarried man he can’t get snipped because what will his future wife will think.

fahrenheit2020 · 2020-07-22T14:39:50+00:00

All of those cases are at the doctor's discretion, and you can find many such examples in the other direction: https://goodmenproject.com/newsroom/are-men-legally-required-to-ask-their-spouses-permission-for-a-vasectomy/

radfem · 2020-07-21T20:45:48+00:00

Y’all don’t seem to think women getting their tubes tied is their own business,

https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/its-2016-and-women-in-australia-still-arent-allowed-control-of-their-bodies-20160724-gqcs6l.html

https://www.marieclaire.com/health-fitness/a15937/tubes-tied-young/

https://www.vice.com/en_asia/article/9kxam7/tubal-ligation-requirements-doctor-denials

bald-janitor · 2020-07-21T16:56:40+00:00

Liberal propaganda

fahrenheit2020 · 2020-07-21T16:21:36+00:00

You don't think men getting vasectomies are 'their own business'?

adultxhumanxfemale · 2020-07-21T14:21:28+00:00

Thank you so much for posting this.

radfem · 2020-07-21T10:12:23+00:00

You know what I think about every time some kid does something violent and... it's the video games/movies/music...etc... lather rinse repeat...

I think of penny dreadfuls, the like OG violent, trashy entertainment, and how in 1880 a lawyer actually tried to have them banned because they were glamorizing the lives of pirates and scoundrels and encouraging children to run away and live as thieves... yep that 'think of the children' discourse has been running well over a hundred years.

Some things literally never change.

It's like the graffiti they finally managed to translate on the walls of Pompeii (oh everyone got so excited to see what the common man would write about his life and times)...

'I fucked many women here'

Phenomenal.

Same with feminist literature, some of it is still so on point even a hundred years later that it just is honestly horrific.

bald-janitor · 2020-07-21T09:51:00+00:00

(((american women)))

Sun_bear · 2020-07-21T07:36:17+00:00

Despite being 30 years old it seems more relevant than ever!

radfem · 2020-07-21T02:18:21+00:00

For anyone interested in more on this, the wiki is actually pretty comprehensive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Cyborg_Manifesto

If you would like to read the actual manifesto itself:

https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=14B512B232FDEF31FB37A7E0D70B3B7E

(Please note the above isn't a legal link and typically I would not post it however the book can be somewhat difficult to source)

missdaisycan · 2020-07-21T01:26:34+00:00

She claims feminism has been co-opted by commercialism, and economic independence has become buying power; self-determination has become commodified self-improvement of "physical appearance, self-esteem and the fool's errand of reclaiming one's youth"; and public agency has been transformed into publicity (xv).

Yowsah. Spot on!!!

missdaisycan · 2020-07-21T01:01:17+00:00

Not interested. I disagree with it. I am a biological entity living in a physical world. Technology is a tool, NOT part of who I am. I'm a Radical Feminist.

missdaisycan · 2020-07-21T00:39:41+00:00

Nah, how about you "wrap" or "fap" it, and myob.

missdaisycan · 2020-07-21T00:02:38+00:00

Invaluable! Why, on this green earth, should girls know more about applying makeup than about their own bodies? Everything else comes with an owners manual.

missdaisycan · 2020-07-20T23:50:56+00:00

God, how I loved this quote, when first I heard it as a young teen! It truly had me considering the cost/benefits/risks of complying versus refusing the current social standards. Which led me to observe women's and men's behaviors and opinions, and judge, yes judge, them with my own developing common sense and gut instinct. At the time, I questioned only- judgement was within my own thoughts. But this practice served me well to becoming an adult human rather than a sheep.

missdaisycan · 2020-07-20T23:10:52+00:00

Thank you! Looking forward to the next two.

bald-janitor · 2020-07-19T13:29:51+00:00

😂

bald-janitor · 2020-07-19T13:26:42+00:00

🙄

bald-janitor · 2020-07-19T13:19:56+00:00

Just walk out from your screen bro

radfem · 2020-07-19T11:49:06+00:00

That's the spirit, now get out there and start converting your brothers, we gotta get this male responsibility train moving.

anarchy753 · 2020-07-19T11:46:34+00:00

No great loss if you're anything to base it off.

radfem · 2020-07-19T11:45:57+00:00

Yep it absolutely will not hurt any man. Unlike pregnancy which kills thousands of women annually.

anarchy753 · 2020-07-19T11:41:20+00:00

"JuSt DoN't HaVe SeX fOr 70 YeArS!!1!"

radfem · 2020-07-19T11:34:38+00:00

My man you clearly aren't a radical feminist, so I don't think this is the sub for you, as we don't indulge sealioning or other forms of trolling here.

You're absolutely right though, men really should start taking responsibility for their semen. Their body, their responsibility. Or you know, they could just not have sex, I'm still 100% behind that.

grixit · 2020-07-19T11:11:33+00:00

I would watch a movie called Killer Condoms, but only on MST3K.

fahrenheit2020 · 2020-07-19T11:11:29+00:00

The most common side effect was acne, and sometimes that acne was pretty severe. Some men also developed mood swings and in some cases those mood swings got pretty bad. One man developed severe depression, and another tried to commit suicide. Because of that, they cut the study short.

These aren't minor side effects that are few and far between, as with the pill.

Also women are happier unmarried and childless.

Some guy abusing some general data to flog his new book, source data which doesn't even make the claim. Are you really so gullible?

As I said... men really need to start embracing vasectomies and stop burdening women.

Your body, your choice, your responsibility. These are things women have been demanding for things like abortion. You can't have it both ways. If you want men to be 100% responsible for women getting pregnant, then they will have 100% responsibility for your choices thereafter.

radfem · 2020-07-19T11:04:13+00:00

Firstly how dare you that woman is a goddess... secondly shit Larry Vincent was awesome too. You know he did the inaugural Knots Berry Farm Halloween Haunt? Jesus his death was a loss...

Meanwhile Hispanic Citizen Catches Illegal Anglos? Thanks I snorted Tequila up my nose.

I would watch that though, but full disclosure, I watch a movie called Killer Condoms regularly

grixit · 2020-07-19T09:58:14+00:00

He's popped up sporadically. A few years back he wrote a column about witnessing a minor accident caused by a careless driver. He stopped and it turned out that both the driver and her passenger were english and had overstayed their visas. I thought he could have made a new movie right there: Hispanic Citizen Catches Illegal Anglos.

As for Elvira, she was ok as a b movie host but i liked Seymore Presents better.

radfem · 2020-07-19T09:19:34+00:00

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/11/03/500549503/male-birth-control-study-killed-after-men-complain-about-side-effects

Actually as it turns out men are just babies when it comes to the mildest of side effects.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/25/women-happier-without-children-or-a-spouse-happiness-expert

Also women are happier unmarried and childless.

As I said... men really need to start embracing vasectomies and stop burdening women.

fahrenheit2020 · 2020-07-19T09:08:49+00:00

That's a new version afaik, in the very early stages of testing. Hope it gets approved. There's also a fully reversible vasectomy in the works that uses dissolvable inserts to block sperm. But until those are on the market, and as free as female birth control is, then the onus is all on women. Your body, your choice. If you don't want to get pregnant, take some responsibility for yourself.

I should also say, be careful what you wish for. Because there is an awful lot of birth control fraud out there. Women that claim to be on birth control but are not, in order to trick men into having children they do not want. If you give men power over birth control, larger numbers of women will grow old and die childless, miserable and alone.

radfem · 2020-07-19T09:02:52+00:00

Umm no try again...

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-47691567

Ps. If men don’t want to get a vasectomy why don’t they just avoid sex while they’re fertile and not looking to produce children.

fahrenheit2020 · 2020-07-19T08:48:58+00:00

Because the trials for the male contraceptive had significant life threatening side effects, not the 1 in a million risk that female contraceptives have. You have to understand that those are the combined side effects for all the various types of female birth control out there. If one doesn't work for you, you can switch to another. You can even, god forbid, simply stay off them and avoid sex for the few days a month that you're fertile. The fact is that women that get accidentally pregnant just can't keep their legs shut long enough.

The article really is just pure ragebait garbage. At one point she's arguing for men to be castrated en masse to prevent abortions.

radfem · 2020-07-19T08:40:52+00:00

https://www.healthline.com/health/birth-control-side-effects

You’re totally right, like totally fake news.

Meanwhile according to the article why don’t we have male oral contraceptives?

fahrenheit2020 · 2020-07-19T08:33:05+00:00

Like this gem?

Men seem unable (or unwilling) to admit that they cause 100% of them.

It's nonsense.

The side effects for many women include migraines, mood swings, decreased libido, depression, severe cramps, heavy bleeding, aneurysm — and that’s just a small fraction of them.

This is fake news. It's normal menstruation that cause those things, and there are types of birth control that stop menstruation completely.

Where would sex with a condom fall? A 7 or 8? So, it’s not that sex with a condom is not pleasurable, it’s just not as pleasurable. An 8 instead of a 10.

Actually for some loose women and older men, it's impossible to even maintain an erection with a condom. Enough of the womansplaining about men's pleasure please.

radfem · 2020-07-19T08:22:39+00:00

While Cassandra has lived in LA for a majority of her life, she wasn't born there, I think the appearance is actually due to Elvira herself. As the character was initially based on that dippy Valley Girl stereotype. Meanwhile, Jesus what a time warp, I haven't thought about Cheech since... Boyfriend from Hell?

radfem · 2020-07-19T08:18:26+00:00

Literally all of your points are addressed within the article, you should give it a read, it's actually really interesting.

fahrenheit2020 · 2020-07-19T07:52:09+00:00

I mean, isn't that also a direct result of those women not being on birth control themselves, and therefore just as guilty of not practising safe sex?

grixit · 2020-07-19T07:41:24+00:00

She was in the Cheech and Chong video for "Born in East LA", did she live there?

radfem · 2020-07-19T02:43:00+00:00

There are roughly 900,000 accidental pregnancies per year in the US alone. A significant portion directly due to men pressuring or tricking women into having sex without a condom... At what point do we say that men can't be trusted to practise safe sex?

anarchy753 · 2020-07-19T02:30:52+00:00

That's just ignorant. The article is talking about the onus being on men to be better about birth control, which they should be.

Suggesting that equates to vasectomies is like saying women should get a hysterectomy if they don't feel like getting pregnant right now.

bald-janitor · 2020-07-18T23:46:09+00:00

🤢

radfem · 2020-07-18T21:35:53+00:00

Intentions do matter, do they matter more than the impact you have though?

For instance, you’re driving and take your eyes off the road for a moment and hit someone, killing them... your intention of course wasn’t to kill them and the judge will likely take that into consideration during the trial but still...

You’ve killed someone, same result as if you deliberately ran them down. Their family won’t miss them less just because you didn’t mean to kill them.

We tend to focus a lot on our intentions sometimes without giving much thought to that fact that our actions have had devastating effects regardless.

I’ve also noticed that the intent with which people say, ‘my intentions were good’ differs. Some say it to give context to their actions, to assure the wronged person they didn’t mean to hurt them with no denial of the hurt they caused... others use it to excuse the hurt they’ve caused, ‘my intentions were good... so you can’t blame me if you got hurt’.

TruthTeller · 2020-07-18T16:19:27+00:00

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