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[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

perhaps 12 caused potential problems

Oh come on. You're better than that. If you will believe that, I have a bridge to sell you, going cheap.

Australia's Theraputic Goods Administration (TGA) is aggressively pro-vaccine, and Australia one of the most heavily vaccinated countries in the world. The Australian government coerced the adult population into getting vaccinated: no vaccine, and you were prohibited from working. They allowed exemptions for people with a proven history of suffering anaphylactic reactions to vaccines, but no other exemptions. The TGA aggressively cracked down on doctors who prescribed Ivermectin and made it harder to get than addictive opioids. But even the TGA has admitted that in Australia alone there have been hundreds of severe adverse effects linked to the vaccines.

In October 2021 the TGA reported:

  • 404 reported cases of myocarditis with or without pericarditis, including 60 in just one week, following vaccination;
  • 3 reports of pericarditis in young boys, one aged 12 and two aged 16;
  • 157 reports of thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS);
  • 138 reports of Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS);
  • 86 reports of immune thrombocytopenia (ITP).

If just ten percent of these reports were confirmed, then in just over nine months there were nearly seven times more serious adverse effects in Australia alone than Bloomberg reported for the entire world in a year.

By the way, this is only a handful of the conditions which have been linked to Covid vaccines. There are others, including reactivating shingles and other viral infections. If you are surprised by this, and don't understand how it can happen, that's because you don't understand how vaccines work.

It is true that not all those reported cases of adverse effects are necessarily linked to the vaccine. But not all adverse effects are reported, not even serious ones. I know personally at least one case of a person who suffered a major cardiac event within hours of vaccination, one which almost killed him, and both the patient and his doctor refused to report it on the register because "it was just a coincidence". (This is an acquaintance of my mother.)

When it comes to pharmaceuticals, there are a lot of coincidence theorists.

[–]cunninglingus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm of course exaggerating with the note of 12 cases. You've kindly provided the numbers for me.

Lets add up the TGA numbers: 788

Number of COVID vaccine doses administered in Australia: 143,110,000

Hence the likelihood of reporting a side effect after taking the vaccine is 1 in 18.034264 million.

Were the side effects due to pre-existing conditions? Were they due to allergies? Were the side effects treatable with blood thinners and other drugs? Were they temporary? Were they life threatening?

We can use Australia as an small example of the side effects of 12.7 billion doses. Historically vaccines obviously reduce the spread of viruses, by helping build immunity to the virus. There have been examples of side effects, but the likelyhood in Ausralia has been 1 in 18 million.

Thus if given a choice of spreading a serious virus that causes numerous problems and potentially death, or providing a helpful vaccine to reduce that spread, you know what's recommended.

Secondly, guess who benefits from spreading the anti-vax lies and misinformation? Not the 99%. Those lies only benefit those who want the virus to spread. The spreading of COVID helped numerous billionaires. Some of them helped pay for the heavily-funded anti-vax campaigns.

We've discussed this at length at Saidit. The anti-vax audience will not believe science. Getting them to believe anti-vax lies has been helpful in getting them believe many other lies, also promoted by the .01%. The problem we face is not a vaccine in this case. It's the spread of lies by the .01%.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Lets add up the TGA numbers: 788

Number of COVID vaccine doses administered in Australia: 143,110,000

The link you give says 71 million not 143 million. Did you think I wouldn't click through to check? 😒

You are counting reported adverse effects in the first 9 months vs vaccine doses over four years. I'm used to the many ways that vaxxists try to cook the books by under-counting adverse effects, but that's just taking the piss.

spreading a serious virus that causes numerous problems and potentially death

All viruses that infect humans can potentially cause death. For the elderly, the common cold (rhinovirus) is more dangerous than the flu. I expect that other common cold viruses (at least four other coronaviruses, plus at least another 100 other adenoviruses, enteroviruses, parainfluenza viruses and RSV) probably behave the same way: more deadly to the old and infirm than to the young and healthy. I know, shocking, right?

The earliest, most dangerous strains of Covid had an Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) of about 0.1%, which made it somewhat more dangerous than typical influenza epidemics. (And that figure may very well be an over-estimate, for various reasons I won't go into cough iatrogenic deaths cough over-counting cough.) Omicron has out-competed those strains and is nowhere nearly so dangerous. I expect it is now in the same class as the seasonal flu (IFR about 0.001%), with the greatest danger for the old and frail, like rhinoviruses.

We don't shut down society to avoid the flu. We shouldn't have shut down society for Covid. Sweden shows that targeted action to protect the most vulnerable was more effective than the mass lockdowns used by the rest of Europe, against all pre-2020 scientific advice.

It really is shocking how Covid came along and health departments, hospitals, doctors and medical "experts" immediately threw out all the hard-won knowledge we learned during the first SARS epidemic, and had to re-learn the exact same lessons over the dead bodies of people who didn't need to die. Sometimes incompetence really is indistinguishable from malice.

[–]cunninglingus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

These are part of Australia:

NSW 22,000,000
Victoria 18,500,000
Queensland 13,300,000
WA 7,600,000
SA 5,000,000
Tasmania 1,700,000
ACT 2,300,000
NT 654,100

If we focus only on 71k, you're still arguing for a teeny tiny incredibly rare incidence of potential temporary problems with a vaccine that's otherwise been successful in 99% of the cases without those side effects.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These are part of Australia:

Wait, what? Are you actually taking the total for Australia, and then adding the individual states to that total???

Well that would explain why you got a figure double the actual figure. You counted every state twice 😂 😂 😂

If we focus only on 71k

What 71 thousand?

You started by doubling the number of virus doses over four years and then tried to count only the adverse effects in nine months. Do you really not understand that you've left out 3+ years of side-effects? If you aren't willing to admit even that little, you are just as bad as Holocaust Deniers, Climate Change Deniers and Moon Landing Deniers.

That is the same as the Holocaust Denialist trick of counting only the number of Jews in Germany in 1939, which was something like ten thousand or so (by memory) and then saying "How could they have killed six million Jews?". It is precisely the same trick.