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[–][deleted] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

For me it was twice, but not PiV sex, which I could never bring myself to do, and I cried afterwards both times and wondered what was wrong with me. I never had a boyfriend, and I never even kissed any of my "dates." This idea that you're either gold-star or living some "dating and fucking dudes" sex-and-the-city lifestyle before coming out just seems so weird to me.

I have seen the whole "I've had a dozen boyfriends, but the last one cheated on me, so I'm gay now" in grosser places like LBL, but I never saw it on TL. Gross if so. Ugh.

[–]StoneyTangawizi1 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Apologies for asking but may I asked were those two times bjs, handies or did you get fingered or eaten out by them? Its strange though because I have heard some lesbians claim that they never have sex with a dude but have give him a handy or bj. And that confused me because isn't that still a form of sex/sexual act or do they think PIV is the only "actual sex"? Because going by that standard, goldstars are literally virgins for their whole lives as well as they never interact in anyway or form with a dick.

I wonder how many non-goldstars never have PIV but did bj, handy, get fingered or eaten out by a guy?

Yes I don't know where that stereotype of "dating and fucking dudes" come from. Maybe something to do with how sex-obsessed, phallocentric the US or anywhere else in the West is?

Well maybe not that type of narrative, but I think have seen a few posts of "dating and sleeping of several males" as a self harm on TL.