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[–]Elvira95 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

She didn't need to transition though. She was openly lesbian and in a country with gay marriage. This isn't an excuse, she was not suffering from homophobia

[–][deleted] 33 insightful - 1 fun33 insightful - 0 fun34 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I can't speak to Ellen's personal feelings or experiences but I feel like claiming she wasn't suffering from homophobia is a silly take. Homophobia doessn't just disappear if you're openly lesbian. It doesn't disappear when same-sex marriage becomes legal. Like what do you think is driving so many young girls and grown women to transition? Not taking into account the mixture of misogyny and rampant lesbophobia makes no sense.

[–]Elvira95 16 insightful - 4 fun16 insightful - 3 fun17 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Masculine women are thinking they're men, because of gender ideology. That's the reason.

[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, the gender ideology which is rooted in sexist ideas. The gender ideology that tells young girls (mainly lesbians) that if they're masculine then they're not really women. The gender ideology that is a product of a homophobic society that would rather see a lesbian woman pretend to be anything-but-a-woman than admit she is a lesbian. Including high-profile celebrities who have been well-documented as being subject to lesbophobic and misogynistic abuse their entire careers.

How are people so close to understanding and yet so far away to making the connection?

[–]VioletRemi 22 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 0 fun23 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

She was attacked in the media and internet recently, especially after her leaked naked model from that game she was playing for.

And why today, why now? Literally few hours after Keira Bell huge win for all lesbians...

[–]Elvira95 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

I dont know about it. But she was not suffering homophobia

[–]VioletRemi 26 insightful - 1 fun26 insightful - 0 fun27 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

And what about her own words year ago "I will be always lesbian and will always be staring on lesbian roles". Not aged well. And transition is so random, she was never feeling like "in a wrong body" or "like a man" until so recently. So stupid.

[–]lmaonope333[S] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

maybe she is being controlled

[–]Elvira95 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

By who?

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

The pod people.

[–]piylot 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Do you have speculations about why she's chosen to identify as transgender?

[–]PassionateIntensity 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She hangs out with people deeply immersed in trans ideology and drank the Koolaid in a social fad way. She's gender non-conforming? she was a tomboy as a kid? therefore she must actually be male. I don't doubt there's self-hatred driving it too.

[–]Elvira95 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Because of leaning toward boysh style, she's convinced she's actually a male.Unless it publicy stunt and will not actually go on testosterone. Maybe that's what non binary means.

[–]LeaveAmsgAfterBeep 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Personally I think its 100% a publicity stunt combined with mid career crisis.

[–]Nonime 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She's hitting that wall where older women struggle to find roles in Hollywood. I suspect this is her woke way into being cast for "diversity" reasons.

[–]PassionateIntensity 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just because you grow up somewhere liberal doesn't make you not full of internalized homophobia.