[meta] anyone else is disturbed by the kind of people on saidit? should we move somewhere else?

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[–]Gearbeta 42 insightful - 2 fun42 insightful - 1 fun43 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

No, you're not the only one and I suspect this is what TRAs want, which is to associate our point of view with vile bigotry along the lines of being a racist or nazi, when all we want is to just be attracted to other females in peace. Ovarit, the new GC site looks promising but not every person here is GC. IDK.

[–]mangosplums 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It’s exactly what they want. We need to move.

[–]sootsprite 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

They're always gonna paint us as nazis or whatever else they want to make up about us regardless of where we are.

[–]Gearbeta 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The problem is less what the TRAs say and more the issue of getting people to come here. People may be turned off from joining if they see the rest of the site.

[–]mangosplums 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, but we don’t need to just lay down and let them paint us this way. I’d rather not be resigned to a site that also has nazis and white supremicists on it. It’s not hard to find somewhere else to go.

[–]LeaveAmsgAfterBeep 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They’ve been painting us as nazis since the first woman said No

[–]yousaythosethings 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This is my main concern. I don't want TRAs to use this as the propaganda that they will absolutely use it as.

[–]LeaveAmsgAfterBeep 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They have always lied when there was nothing else to do. This is how things tend to go from TRA, and people will eat out of their hands. Regardless of what they say or do we have to exist. They will demonize however we do that, they are only please by our ceasing to exist or our silence, and anyone who thinks that is an acceptable option for women and lesbians in particular is not someone whose opinions I give a single shit about.

[–]yousaythosethings 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I just don't think it would hurt to explore the possibility of other options. I agree that here is better than nowhere. TRAs or are fully indoctrinated are lying liars who lie and there is no hope of convincing them of anything, but there are still a lot of people on the left and within the LGB community that are just relying on others to do their thinking for them on a topic they don't understand (because trans ideology is deliberately inconsistent and convoluted). They trust that since they are aligned with these TRAs on social issues generally, that they have their best interests at heart here. TRAs are counting on this misconception and it's easy for them to say "Look who hangs out on saidit." I think whether sooner or later, a separate platform is ideal.

[–]LeaveAmsgAfterBeep 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You’re right it is worth a look! But no option will ever be good enough so we might as well say its for us rather than letting them get a say in our behavior.