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[–]chazzstrong 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ironically. They call anyone who doesn't lock-step with Progressive ideologies a right-wing fascist. For stating I didn't believe in all that gender-queer nonbinary bullshit I've had entire accounts locked, friends dumped me, and been blasted as everything under the sun. All because I believe in science and reality. The BEST irony is that, up to 2016, I only ever voted Democrat and was a hardcore Liberal. However no way in hell was I voting for Hillary, so I sat it out, and then in 2020 made the full switch and voted Independent / Republican. If RFK would just shut his fucking mouth about hate-speech and gun confiscation, I might be tempted to vote Democrat again in 2024.

I'm in that awkward position where a lot of my politics put me in circles with fairly right-wing people, yet I'm open about being part of the LGB community. I get a lot of 'slippery slope' bullshit, but I try my hardest to get these bumpkin edgelords to understand the difference in trans-groomers and the normal 'gays' who just want to live their lives well away from everyone's children.

[–]reluctant_commenter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Gotcha, that all makes sense, thanks for explaining. I relate to a ton of what you wrote. Particularly this:

I'm in that awkward position where a lot of my politics put me in circles with fairly right-wing people, yet I'm open about being part of the LGB community. I get a lot of 'slippery slope' bullshit, but I try my hardest to get these bumpkin edgelords to understand the difference in trans-groomers and the normal 'gays' who just want to live their lives well away from everyone's children.

It makes me sad to see the kinds of connotations some people have with LGB now because of the TQ+. But I figure the best thing I can do to combat those mental associations is to just be myself and show through my actions that it's entirely possible to be sane and confident in yourself and L/G/B without having to plaster rainbow decorations and posts all over social media.

Hope you're able to find some thoughtful people who understand that LGB != TQ.

[–]chazzstrong 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Honestly, the worst part is that the bridge that connects 'then' to 'now' in their minds isn't hard to follow. When gays fought for equal rights and, eventually, the ability to marry the whole 'coming for our children' argument was the one everyone was most vocal about. It took like a decade or more to tamp that down in the public eye, but here we have so-called "representatives" of our "our community" literally saying exactly that.

I may spite the mindset these hard-right haters have, but I can't fault them for it, and that's what sucks the most. But I won't stop trying, I've noticed a few more voices joining me in the forums and communities I post in so there's that, at least. I've also found success by pointing people to groups like GaysAgainstGroomers or LGBAlliance. Once they see not just the orgs intentions, but the HATE they get from the trans-groomers, they start to think 'maybe they aren't all like that'.