Indoctrination / Doublethink"Pride event in PA featured a stripper pole where they taught kids how to pole dance" - Libs of TikTok video

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[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

MPX = monkeypox. While it's true that some organizations that speak about gay men's health are starting to recommend decreasing ones sexual partners (at least temporarily), you still have a lot of media messaging that bemoans the "threat to intimacy". I'm sorry, but for me random sex =/= intimacy. If you want to experience "intimacy" court someone for a few weeks before jumping into the sack. I know I don't have to tell lesbians this: you galz are generally better about maintaining relationship.

[–]reluctant_commenter[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ahhh, gotcha. Yeah, I saw the post about this the other day. I haven't been following the monkeypox issue closely at all, maybe I'll look into that. If LGB people are reacting that way to it, though, then that is really disconcerting.

The topic actually came up when I saw a couple of friends the other day-- both straight guys, AFAIK. One of them suggested that he was worried about monkeypox becoming widespread, and suggested that young children were especially at risk. The other looked incredulous. I made a jokey comment about toddlers having gay sex and the second guy laughed. We talked about it a bit more and clarified to the first guy that sexual transmission is more of a risk factor. It struck me that the guy who already knew about it was so hesitant to speak up about it, though. Maybe he thought I was going to get all offended or something... (edit: they both know I'm lesbian)

I'm sorry, but for me random sex =/= intimacy. If you want to experience "intimacy" court someone for a few weeks before jumping into the sack.

Lol that's a good point. I think maybe people forget this because "intimacy" is sometimes used as a euphemism for sex.

I know I don't have to tell lesbians this: you galz are generally better about maintaining relationship.

Hahaha, you're probably right, although unfortunately I think there is a subset of us who are terrible about not leaving unhealthy long-term relationships... strengths and weaknesses, lol.

[–]IridescentAnacondastrictly dickly 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think maybe people forget this because "intimacy" is sometimes used as a euphemism for sex.

Isn't this a clever bit of propaganda? Maybe not so clever. The author of the piece can't directly say "sex" because he knows he'll lose all the sympathy points. So he hides it behind "intimacy", which might provoke compassion: those poor gay men, unable to find true love because of the illnesses that keep happening to them, for some reason nobody knows why.

I've been in a state this last week because on the one hand I really resent the people who are committed to hating gays, all of us, but on the other hand it's hard to argue why they shouldn't hate at least gay men.

Anyhowz, thanks for your vote of confidence in my cranky comments :-)

[–]Wanderingthehalls 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Children are more at risk of serious illness (even death) with monkeypox than adults are. It's certainly spreading mostly through sexual contact but it can be spread through any close physical contact. And children are not only regularly hugged and cuddled but younger ones need to be carried, dressed, bathed, etc. So parents or other family members with monkeypox could spread it to a child by normal physical contact. A number of children have been infected in regions with larger outbreaks and a number of them have ended up quite seriously ill. If MPX spreads into a broader base of the general population then a lot of children do become very much at risk.

Tbh, this is not an LGB issue, it is an issue for gay and bisexual men. (Obviously not all of them.) At present, lesbians and bisexual women who are with women, are one of the least at risk sectors of society.