LGB HistoryAbout Compton's Cafeteria riot

submitted by Rage-Xion from self.LGBDropTheT

Alright, I recently watched part of a documentary about LGBT history that talked a bit about this lesser known event than the Stonewall riot. It claims that transgender women (without naming even one) were already fighting against police harassment.

As I struggle to find non-woke articles about it on the internet (and I don't trust Wikipedia), is that claime true or is it another instance of drag queens being posthumously transed?

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[–]Horror-SwordfishI don't get how flairs work 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I hadn't heard of this. I'd be interested in reading more about it, but I also don't really trust Wikipedia's sources that say it was "trans women and drag queens." Almost all of their sources are from 2018 forward, which is fairly suspect in my mind, and leads me to believe that it was "drag queens" and people that are saying "trans women" are making the leap that some drag queens were probably actually trans women but they just didn't have the terminology for that. (Like what's been done to Marsha Johnson.)

I'd love to hear more if anyone here does know more about it, though!

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

we know they were drag queens, and gay crross dressers. the former is starting to fall under the trans umbrella; the latter is already been absorbed.

[–]RedEyedWarriorGay | Male | 🇮🇪 Irish 🇮🇪 | Antineoliberal | Cocks are Compulsory 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Never heard of it, and I don't care. Gay men, lesbians and bisexual people of both of the two sexes have been fighting for the right to be left alone for centuries. The fight kicked up a notch in 1791 when France became the first country in the world that ever criminalised homosexuality to decriminalise homosexuality. It kicked up another notch when war hero Alan Turing took his own life after being forced by the government to take poisonous drugs to avoid a life sentence just for engaging in consensual sex in private with another man. More countries decriminalised homosexuality and more stopped treating us as though we're mentally ill. Those events are more important to me than a bunch of cross dressers at some canteen.

This is partly why I do not throw my support behind drag queens, regardless of the cause. They will get transwashed by neoliberal history. Also because I think cross dressing in public is obscene.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't know much about it, but:

This plaque is dated 2006, that was before the 'woke' craze, right?

And this article is also from 2006, and it seems to suggest a heavy trans presence at the riot.

Does that help?

[–]Rage-Xion[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, thanks

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

2006, that was before the 'woke' craze, right?

I think that the whole "trans" thing really got going in the 1990s, actually-- that's when the straight-men-with-ladyfeelz started their siege campaign against MichFest, after all. So their efforts to colonize women's and LGB spaces/identities were already well underway by 2006. It's just that, more recently, they've been consolidating their gains, and "genderism" has become a fad, both of which make "trans" as conspicuous as the proverbial turd in a punchbowl. But it's been around wrecking havoc for a while now.

And this article is also from 2006, and it seems to suggest a heavy trans presence at the riot.

What KIND of "trans", though? Straight men with a cross-dressing fetish? i.e., those dominating the entire "trans" movement? Like, say, "Susan Stryker" ("an openly lesbian trans woman", SURPRISE SURPRISE), whose documentary on the riot is what led to this article in the first place? Not hardly. The rioters were "straight transwomen"... or, in other words: gay men. Guys like "Susan" didn't give a flying fuck about gay rights; they were at home jerking off in their wife's underwear. But of course that doesn't sound like anything to be proud of, does it? Hence Stryker's shameless attempt to conflate the actual gay men who WERE there with straight male perverts like himself, who wouldn't have been caught dead anywhere near a bunch of (F-slur)s. Despite being convinced that "trans" is a pernicious lie, I feel a lot of sympathy for these gay men; most were probably just trying to find a path for themselves within gender-role rules, where "male-attracted = woman"-- so, if they "became women", they could have a boyfriend/husband and, hopefully, some kind of semi-normal life. Not a good choice, certainly (or, god knows, fair to these poor guys), but an understandable one, given the shitty circumstances. The "Susan Strykers", though? They can rot in hell.