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[–]reluctant_commenter 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I probably sound like a broken record but literally every time you make a post like this I am just sitting here relating so hard. Especially this:

I know I lie when I use their pronouns. "You're lying" says a voice in the back of my head, each and everytime. It's easier to pretend behind a screen when you don't even know what the person looks like. But when you see them... and you absolutely don't believe in what they believe, it's just really hard to not just snap and walk away.

And this:

It's impossible to speak against TQ+ to a lot of LGB youngsters or they'll snap.

Exactly this. I am dealing with this with some people IRL... I've been trying to broaden my horizons a little bit and connect with more people who are LGB-identified, and it's so, so disheartening to me to see how incredibly brainwashed so many of them are. I made a post about it recently-- the guy in that post is I think straight, but I've had similarly ridiculous conversations with other LGB-identified people.

I just had to write what I was thinking today, to get it out of my head and to not snap or even try to bring sense to those people. I'm just done, once again, and very tired while they seem so chill with their TQ+ stuffs. Like it's the right thing, and it's normal. It feels very weird to see all that in front of your eyes, in real life, really.

I'm glad you did. And yes, it is weird! I feel more sane knowing that I'm not the only one out there dealing with this incredibly frustrating situation (though I'm sorry you are dealing with it, too)!

I will say. You said you're struggling dealing with your anger. I am, too. The mentality I've been moving towards more recently, though, is that it IS completely reasonable for us to be angry!!! Like, really, this stuff is crazy! It's a massive gaslighting operation, it's enough to make anyone go mad (angry or crazy, honestly). My solution has been to try to observe: "Who in my life is giving me energy? Who's actively making me feel drained, angry, and disappointed with the world?" Unfortunately... I realized that one of the people in my life who is (or at least identifies as) LGB, is absolutely making me feel drained-- because I just have to fucking tiptoe around her constantly. I know that she would have this very reaction that you describe:

It's impossible to speak against TQ+ to a lot of LGB youngsters or they'll snap

and honestly I'm just fucking done being around people who make me feel like that, whether because they're a homophobic TRA or because they're a garden variety asshole. This abhorrent belief system, gender identity ideology, is destroying LGB community building efforts in so many macro-level and micro-level ways. I've accepted that this is just going to be one more casualty. Maybe I could've been better friends with her in a different world, or a different time. Not in 2022.

Anyway, again, I appreciate you posting about this and sharing your experience.

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You don't sound like a broken record, it's the TQ+ ideology that is just staying the same shit. And I'm happy to have someone who gets me, so thank you for being around and reading my vents, means a lot !

I'm not that much around them (except online...) but yeah I have a friend who's fully commited to that BS. That's how I get to see the TQ+ people and to huh, observe and listen to their stupid shit. Which is funny because if the point was to make me more "open-minded" well... That just confirms how stupid I think all of this is. They're just proving right the assholes that actually wants to hurt GNC and homosexual people by trying to pretend they're the opposite gender and shit. Like there's a right way to be a woman or a man. Such a dumb movement...

I don't think I'll cut ties. But I'll tell what is on my mind if a line is crossed. Not to the crew, but just to my friend. And if after that she thinks I'm too mean/cold or whatever, well that's just life. Before that, I don't care. I won't pretend those people are my close mates or anything. I'll just do my own shit and also hang out with normies who don't mind me being who I am.

For the anger part, I don't think it will ever go away to be fair, it's something we have to manage. People are just infuriating in general to be honest and they've always been for so many things I don't even know why I'm still surprised by how badly they can treat each others. That's just... life I guess. Some have it worse, some better but again, it is what it is so we're just bothering ourselves until we learn how to say "ok fuck it" I guess...

But hey overall thank you for reacting, and thank you for being around. I'm sorry all of this shit is also affecting you at work, this shouldn't have it's place anywhere else than tumblr... Please feel free to share how you feel and your thoughs in general, don't isolate yourself and take time away from all of this when you can. I don't know if you can change your work to go somewhere less TQ+-ish...? I know for some work it's pretty hard, and also finding a job is not that easy... But if it's for your mental healt and general well being you could check different places if that's possible. I don't know I'm maybe too naive but I wouldn't want you to lose your mind over those clowns. Anyway... Take care RC and stay safe, again, I'm usually around if you need to vent or empty your mind of what's bothering you.