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[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Unfortunately, a lot of people still wouldn't :/ I've tried to explain this to people IRL and they tell me I'm crazy.

It's because they think this isn't a thing, or you're exaggerating.

This is because TRAs aren't dumb enough to go after straight people, or show their dirty laundry in public.

There's people who even today still think that most Ts are poor HSTS who have to prostitute themselves to earn a living, which isn't the case for a long time already.

Do you think most people care to browse r/fetttttishhhh or any trans sub? Hell, most of them don't even have to deal with TQs on real life!

That's where the problem lies.

[–]reluctant_commenter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

or you're exaggerating.

Well I can tell you I'm not exaggerating, because there is a disturbingly high number of people on the left who see no problem with the homophobic "Cotton Ceiling" concept. In Allison Bailey's trial, for example, like half the witnesses said that they thought lesbian women were being transphobic for refusing to date transwomen! On record, in court! I mean, if you don't believe it's a thing, I invite you to take a look at r/actuallesbians, Reddit's most popular lesbian-fetishizing community.

That's where the problem lies.

I mean... yes and no. In my everyday, the biggest problem I face is from other "LGBTQ+"-identified people who freak the fuck out if I say something that at all conflicts with the trans lobby's party line. But I agree that a lot of straight people just don't know about what's going on, and that's because LGB people get censored online when we talk about it.

[–]Neo_Shadow_LurkerPronouns: I/Don't/Care 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

In Allison Bailey's trial, for example, like half the witnesses said that they thought lesbian women were being transphobic for refusing to date transwomen!

Most of the witnesses involved in that case were TQ+ and people who were linked to transactivism, which is not exactly what I would call a "normie crowd". It also doesn't help that the trial had a very limited reach outside of GC circles.

Most everyday people would find an AGP trying to shame a lesbian into fucking them objectionable in the same way they find the "traps aren't gay" bs to be objectionable: they know that sexual orientation is based of biological sex and what males and females are.

They see HSTS as gay men who are presenting themselves as female to catfish straight men and see the men who go after them as chasers and closeted cases.

The average joe view on TQ+ issues is outdated and that needs to change. People need to know about AGP and how these people are preying on lesbians and how Aidens are doing the same to gay men.

[–]reluctant_commenter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Most of the witnesses involved in that case were TQ+ and people who were linked to transactivism, which is not exactly what I would call a "normie crowd".

I agree that it's not a representative sample of the general population. However, I think it may actually be a much more representative sample of the types of people who get quoted in media articles. I can't show you a sample of people I've met in real life and their views; and unfortunately, til there's more data on attitudes towards LGB people that actually specifies that sexual orientation is defined on the basis of sex, we can only speculate about prevalence. Comments sections on news articles are sometimes more supportive-- but those are not population-representative samples, either.

Most everyday people would find an AGP trying to shame a lesbian into fucking them objectionable in the same way they find the "traps aren't gay" bs to be objectionable: they know that sexual orientation is based of biological sex and what males and females are.

I'd hope so, but the problem is that most people 1) don't believe this is happening and 2) don't believe that transwomen would ever do this, because transwomen have been pitched by left-biased media as the most oppressed minority group ever.

The average joe view on TQ+ issues is outdated and that needs to change. People need to know about AGP and how these people are preying on lesbians and how Aidens are doing the same to gay men.

Completely agree. And yes I agree there needs to be much more talk of how this is harming gay men. There is a view trumpeted by some in the GC/radfem movement that female detransitioners are all "poor innocent children" who cannot be blamed at all for transitioning... yes, some were children, but some are adults who freely made the decision to fetishize gay men. Their actions are creepy and deeply homophobic. And it's honestly infantilizing and condescending as hell, as well as unrealistic, for some people to suggest that none of the female transitioners had any agency whatsoever in their actions. (This has unintentionally turned into a rant, sorry.)