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[–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

and so I hope the radical feminists of today are vehemently against it.

It seems popular online. Although I've only met one "political lesbian" IRL, and she got tired of faking her actual sexual orientation (straight) and dropped the act after a while.

[–]cryptoterfthrowTomcattin' 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Online feels like where all the crazies go to cope. I'm in radical feminist spaces online, and I haven't seen political lesbianism there, so I'm not sure if it could be the types of people we attract. I have seen online radical feminist FEBfems call themselves lesbian for a short time, but I'm against that for various reasons.

[–]reluctant_commenter 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Online feels like where all the crazies go to cope.

Yupppp. I think it's been bad for a while, but the pandemic might've made it even worse. I'm not on Ovarit but I used to lurk on the truelesbians subreddit, and I also used to post a lot on s/lesbians. There was a surprisingly vocal minority of users in both groups who self-identified as political lesbians. I was actually just talking about this with u/soundsituation; I think she was more of the belief that they are trolls, but I'm not convinced. Either way, I'm glad that people here on this sub seem against political lesbianism, at least.

That being said-- even if few radical feminists believe in the political lesbianism concept, many radical feminist leaders do. For example, Julie Bindel does, and Lesbian and Gay News features her regularly! I don't understand why so many people are comfortable supporting a person who is openly homophobic and denies the existence of homosexual women. But that's a topic for another post.

[–]cryptoterfthrowTomcattin' 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I had no idea about Julie Bindel, that's ridiculous. Time to read more about her.

I get the idea of straight women wanting to be liberated as much as possible from male fantasies and ideals etc. while also meeting their very human needs for intimacy, but intimacy can't be satisfied through a lie. It's like another form of conversion therapy. I have a bisexual female friend who felt as though she needed to forgo men entirely in dating - not necessarily a comparable situation, because she is actually attracted to women - to free herself from playing into the patriarchy, but she felt guilty about her attraction to men and it quickly became unhealthy. I'm sure we're all aware of what that feeling is like.