LGB ErasureIf you don't want to suck dick, you're not a lesbian.

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[–][deleted] 28 insightful - 1 fun28 insightful - 0 fun29 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ok, so what should we call ourselves then? They didn't like it when we used super lesbian, same-sex attracted, or homosexual.

[–]SoTiredOfThisShit 19 insightful - 8 fun19 insightful - 7 fun20 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

I believe "bigot", "genital fetishist" and "sexual racist" are the progressive terms for homosexual.

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Why do they get to define themselves, but they won't extend the same privilege to us? Are they the only ones allowed to define things?

[–]MoutonelectriqueBland Straight ♀ 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (62 children)

Wait, is this person even old enough to be on tinder?

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa[S] 13 insightful - 8 fun13 insightful - 7 fun14 insightful - 8 fun -  (61 children)

Probably very young. He is cute though, very soft feature, I would fuck if I were bi lol

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (57 children)

That's such a weird thing to say as a ''lesbian''. Sei sicura di esserne una? lol

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (56 children)

Totalmente sicura. Era una battuta. Posso riconoscere che un ragazzo è carino, senza volermelo fare.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (55 children)

Sì ma ricordo che avevi detto anche che ti affascinasse Damiano dei Maneskin o una cosa del genere...Cioè non è la prima volta che decanti il tuo amore per questo tipo di ragazzi, la trovo una cosa un po' ''sospetta'', tutto qui...

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa[S] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (53 children)

No, sono totalmente sicura di non essere minimamente interessata al cazzo. Credimi, che vorrei tanto non fosse il caso, ma sono totalmente omo.Però ci sono ragazzi dai tratti androgini che possono confondermi il cervello, per quanto riguarda l'attrazione. Ovviamente, quando penso al pene, tutto l'interesse sparisce

[–]UWUness 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (40 children)

Believe me, I wish this weren't the case, but I'm a lesbian

Whoa there.

I should have expected someone that's so obsessed with the claim that "I couldn't have possibly chosen to be gay" is homophobic ...

All the "born this way" people are homophobic. You make it sound like "gay" is something you wished you could get rid of, but can't because "omg genes and hormones".

I would always choose to be gay, regardless of what we openly gay people experience in society.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (39 children)

I would be bisexual if I could, but of course I cannot choose my sexuality, cannot make myself getting aroused by dick and males, as that isn't a biological thing I can choose. For me is only about the far highr chances to finding someone right. I do find relationship with women superior in everything comparing to relationship with men, I think women are just better, sexually and emotionally, but being part of a super small minority doesn't make life easy. Even in a country where homosexuality is accepted, the dating odds are far worst when your dating poll is severely restricted. That's why I'm not so happy about total homosexuality, nothing to do with homophobia.I like to be a lesbian, I just don't like the stats.

If you really choose to be gay, you clearly a bisexual woman who prefer others women, and so choose to be with only women. Homosexuality isn't a choice.

[–]UWUness 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (38 children)

If you really choose to be gay, you clearly a bisexual woman who prefer others women, and so choose to be with only women. Homosexuality isn't a choice.

I'm not "bisexual". And even if I were before*, I have successfully turned off all "attraction" to men and feel nothing toward them. It's other women that I am attracted to. For all practical purposes, I am a lesbian, who chose her path despite widespread discrimination.

For me is only about the far highr chances to finding someone right. I do find relationship with women superior in everything comparing to relationship with men, I think women are just better, sexually and emotionally, but being part of a super small minority doesn't make life easy. Even in a country where homosexuality is accepted, the dating odds are far worst when your dating poll is severely restricted. That's why I'm not so happy about total homosexuality, nothing to do with homophobia. I like to be lesbian, I just don't like the stats.

The frustration with dating pools is understandable; however, think of it this way. Most, if not all, of the men that claim to be "into" women one way or another are misogynistic, and if there were no laws restricting them, they would be constantly groping, cat-calling and "assaulting" women. The history of men doing as they wish to women is not pretty.

"Better to have no friends than to have fake friends". Change that to, "better to stay single than to be with someone who's only there to get in my pants".

Men that claim to be "into" women do not care for women on average. Most "sexual assault" cases are done by the very men women believe they can trust, their partners, and spouses for instance.

As for the statistics, if the population of the openly gay people were 3%, it would be: 7 billion x 3% = 210,000,000

Women would be half the population: 210,000,000/2 = 105,000,000

You have about 105,000,000 openly gay women in your dating pool, as long as you are open to dating women of ethnicities that are different from yours.

It is a large number in my view that can keep you satisfied.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (24 children)

So you are saying you can change your sexuality? That sounds pretty homophobic.

You shouldn't be projecting your experience on all homosexual people, because we never had any attraction to opposite sex, and never will be able to. Saying that it was our choice means we could chose to be heterosexual, yet conversion therapy never worked - even for people who really wanted to become straight.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I'm not "bisexual". And even if I were, I have successfully turned off all "attraction" to men and feel nothing toward them. It's other women that I am attracted to. For all practical purposes, I am a lesbian, who chose her path despite widespread discrimination.

And that's explain all your comments. You don't get what it means not to be able to be sex attracted to male. You did a conscious choice of ignoring your hetero attraction and think that how sexuality works, that you choose it. Well, thats not the case. You're still bi, with women leaning, but not actually homosexual. Real homosexual isn't a choice, only bi women can say to choose a sex over another.

Also your idea towards men is quite unfair. Most men are decent people, and there are surely more decent men than the are women into women. Being a lesbian doesn't mean hating men or being repulsed by them,just being unable to get aroused by them.

Also, I think real homosexuality is like 1-2 percent. If you add bi women, than we could get to 5-7. I don't date all over the world. I would date in my country/region I'm in. I could date in others European countries, but I'm not gonna date in Africa or India or whatever. Not because I'm against dating others races than white, but because people date within their geographical location. And most countries still aren't accepting of gay people, meaning most lesbians there don't accept or realize their sexuality and end up with husbands and kids anyway.

[–]NutterButterFlutterStill waving into the void[M] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

English please, not gonna try to mod what you two are talking about through Google translate.

[–]UWUness 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (9 children)

u/septemberfall20x asked if u/Elvira95 is a lesbian, because Elv claimed she would "f*ck" some guy if she weren't a lesbian, to which Elv responded with: "oh believe me, I'm a lesbian. I wish this weren't the case, but it is" ...

Are you going to do anything about the internalized homophobia?

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Sure.

Hey users, try not to have internalized homophobia. We'll support you in working your way out of it if you're willing.

Anything else you'd like internet forum mods to do for free?

[–]PatsyStoneMaverique 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (7 children)

You speak Italian too? How many Italians are there here?

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I think I can count 2 or 3 girls beside me. Don't you like italians, love? lol

[–]UWUness 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

I'm not italian. I'm asian. But I learned latin in highschool, and 99+% of italian vocabulary derived from latin, so I understood their comments.

I remember how cool I found it that my latin teacher would understand french, italian, spanish, portuguese, and romanian, just because she knew the basis of these languages, latin. And I tried to learn it :D

[–]NutterButterFlutterStill waving into the void[M] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

English please, not gonna try to mod what you two are talking about through Google translate.

[–]Virginia_Plain 13 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 4 fun -  (7 children)

Like I said on an askgaybros thread about a similar subject: Anyone could be nonbinary. There is even less criteria for being nonbinary than there is for being a trans man or trans woman, you literally just have to "identify." I have met lesbian couples where both women call themselves "they" or something else (most ridiculous was a 30-something woman who used neopronouns---something mermaid related). I really dout that calling myself "they/them/theirs" would suddenly open up this new vista where they suddenly find me a paragon of nonbinary, bearded, fat, hairy hotness.

Most of the nonbinary people I've met are recognizably male or female, and have romantic interest in other recognizably male or female people. And someone identifying as nonbinary doesn't change my sexuality, as the nonbinary people I find attractive all happen to be recognizably male.

Nico Tortorella and his wife are both performers who identify as nonbinary and pansexual. They made the rounds for their genderqueer marriage: https://people.com/style/nico-tortorella-matching-wedding-outfits-bethany-meyers/

I think he's hot, she doesn't do anything for me at all. Not bad looking, just no spark. I wonder why Bethany's genderqueer presentation and neutral pronouns don't suddenly create this huge gray area where I realize I'm attracted to "non-women."

Lesbian and gay have become pigeonholed as "scenes" someone is into.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa[S] 19 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Non binary is the most stupid shit. Trans can be serious, in term of dysphoria, but non binary, it's the peak of delusion. It's the stupid idea that if you don't fit gender all gender roles of a sex, than your not totally that sex or a mix, or something similarly delusionalNico T

Nico Tortorella, that's a very italian name.

[–]Q-Continuum-kin 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's asking the right questions about why the gender binary is enforced so heavily by transgenderism but then coming up with the exact wrong answer of doubling down on the importance of gender roles and inventing 752 new genders for yourself because you like pink and blue.

You know, instead of just realizing that gender isn't important and you can just go ahead and like pink and blue without torturing reality.

[–]PenseePansyBio-Sex or Bust 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Nico Tortorella, that's a very italian name.

Ain't it tho? Lots of those in the USA once Italian-Americans stopped thinking they had to feign WASP-ness, and, instead of naming their kids stuff like Frances and Matthew, started opting (at least sometimes) for Francesca and Matteo.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Being a Francesca or a Matteo is way cooler than being Frances and Mattthew anyway.

[–]Destresse🇨🇵 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Isn't it funny how names vary so little in the western world? It's like we're circling through the same 30 something names with slight variations depending on the language. Françoise and Matthieu etc. I once heard a Japanese guy be really surprised that it's common in France to meet someone with the same name as you. In my class there are 8 eight people who share a name in total. Eight.

If all the 'Marie' decided to group together I'm sure they could take over the country.

(I went on a tangent sorry 😂)

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa[S] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Elvira wasn't very common I had one classmate called such, she was a bitch. I was way better Elvira, and cuter too lol

Don't worry, I like women intellectually rambling especially if they do it with french accent ahah

[–]HereStill 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Love how we can't define ourselves because it'd be called gatekeeping, but another group can definitely gatekeep and gatekeep us as well.

[–]Sapphicatalyst 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

For a group of people who frequently create new gender and sexuality labels, as well as the flags to represent them, I really really wish they'd do the same for their own brand of "lesbian" instead of fighting to change the standard definition. I'm guessing this has something to do with a combination of validating their gender, porn influence, and perceived access to sex with real lesbians.

[–]ImSuperCerial 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fucking amazing. Part of me laughs at the obvious and then the majority of me wants to help this person that clearly needs so much psychological help.

I mean imagine being this person. Holy fuck.