Colonization"I'm A Pansexual, Non-Binary Lesbian, Trans Woman & Furry" : PLEASE STOP

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[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The BPD correlation is real as far as I can tell (in addition to at least one study that has found a much higher incidence of Cluster B disorders among trans people). But I would emphasize that the constant trying on of different identities is what's going on there. It is not at all unusual for a person with BPD to "mirror" people around them, which can become weird and unnerving (surprise!) when they do things like copy mannerisms, language, manner of dress, etc.—it starts to feel stalkery.

And of course...that's what we are being subjected to, ultimately—a bunch of impulsive, noisy, immature people with little stable sense of self who are trying to construct one that will get them endless validation they feel that they need to exist and survive. We are merely bumps in the road on their way to that supposed destination. That's why we get run over.

[–]MyLongestJourney 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That study has a small number of subjects.And it takes many studies to establish a valid link between conditions affected by multiple factors.I am not trying to cover for the TRAs. I am just trying to be scientific.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I can't actually be sure if we are talking about the same thing since you haven't specified and I don't have time to dig up the one I mean at the moment.

Regardless, it doesn't take a genius to see the correlation every single day all over the place. This is not a mystery. It's a "duh" that maybe someday more studies will verify. Having studied Cluster B disorders for several years intensively myself, I will go with my assessment on this, which is that even whatever study you are thinking of likely is accurate even if unsatisfying.

The evidence is virtually drowning us at this point. So let's not kid ourselves.

[–]MyLongestJourney 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Please do when you have the time. The one I was referring to (and was mentioned in r/LGBDropTheT before it was banned) had less than 100 subjects.Many r/LGBDroptheT members pointed then,that it was just a single study,with less than 100 subjects and we should not draw conclusions from a single study. I felt very proud of my LGBdropthet brothers and sisters then

Regardless, it doesn't take a genius to see the correlation every single day all over the place.

Good science is not a matter of "genius". Good science is a a matter of good methodology. You can be a genius and design a crappy experiment and draw totally false conclusions. And you can be a person of average intelligence and do your ground work and patiently examine all the potential co-factors and design a good experiment and give the correct answers.

Relying on personal experience and anecdotal evidence,is the best way to fool yourself.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm aware of all of the above, not in need of a lecture from you or anyone else, and now think the one fooling themselves is you. The thing is, dealing with this is a here and now situation. And that means understanding the odds, given the evidence, which we can well understand without waiting for confirmation, even when we don't have the science. It is a matter of self-defense and taking appropriate action here and now to deal with a real problem.

So I'm not sure why you are barking up this tree so piously right now but you definitely picked the wrong person to lecture about this. Stand down and consider the point being made instead of nitpicking a different one that will never be applicable to us dealing here and now with this issue. Thanks. When I warn people about this, it's because it's a bit of an emergency. We can be comforted by studies later. Right now, we have work to do. Are you engaged with that reality, or are you just here to poke holes for sport?

[–]MyLongestJourney 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Have a nice day dude.

[–]reluctant_commenter 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Just wanted to throw a couple of links in here... these are non-exhaustive, but essentially, I agree with your observation about personality disorder prevalence. This:

But I would emphasize that the constant trying on of different identities is what's going on there.

is a BPD symptom, or closely related to one.

https://saidit.net/s/GCdebatesQT/comments/5szv/interesting_meta_article_questioning_whether_this/mlo2

related: https://saidit.net/s/LGBDropTheT/comments/87mg/i_want_to_date_lesbians_is_a_valid_reason_for/uk0o

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, exactly. I have watched people with diagnosed BPD do this switching and mirroring, copycatting, etc. (this goes beyond some sort of flattering imitation toward something that feels like stalking). It's eerie. They seem robotic at times in their quest to become something, anything. (They also seem robotic when they are in the middle of gaining pleasure from abusing someone. That's worse than eerie. And more indicative of someone with a comorbid Cluster B disorder, i.e. not "just" BPD. In the case of BPD, I can't imagine how that emptiness must feel, but I do know how it feels to be subjected to the abuse they're capable of inflicting. There is a reason they burn people out constantly. It's a tragedy with a well-earned stigma attached.

Thank you for the links, fine work as usual. I have saved them to catch up with.