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[–]kwallio 22 insightful - 2 fun22 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I don't think I'll ever understand why FTM femininity is a thing.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 16 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Attention.

[–]kwallio 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean I can understand gender bending, and androgyny, but why id as a man and then be "feminine". Sounds like lesbian aesthetic but with extra steps.

[–]reluctant_commenter 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My guess is that most are trying to express that they feel discomfort with their bodies, mistakenly assuming that most women don't and they're the odd ones out for feeling like that. In reality, it's the opposite; I don't think I've met a single "cis" woman, ever, who's had no discomfort with her female body in some way.

[–]kwallio 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The lack of logic between "I don't feel 100% like a mass media stereotype of a woman" and "therefore I must be a man" kind of kills me. Like...there is a middle ground in gender presentation you don't have to be one extreme or the other.

[–]censorshipment 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The couple who may have paved the way for ftm4ftm love...

http://culturecampaign.blogspot.com/2010/01/pregnant-man-of-transgender-couple.html?m=1

Woman meets woman; they fall in love; get 'married' as same-sex male couple; one 'man' gets pregnant; just another 'family'

[–]reluctant_commenter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

One of the former mods of s/detrans did a Youtube interview describing how she thought she was bisexual, back when she was deep into gender identity ideology, and got into a relationship with another trans-identified female. Then she realized that she was straight and was kind of forcing herself to do that. Whenever I see a couple like this, I wonder whether they are straight girls thinking their sexuality is fluid and is whatever they want it to be, and not really paying attention to how their body feels, like the detrans mod did.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Was this Helena? Can you link the specific interview?

[–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

FINALLY found it!!! https://youtu.be/bt5DYGrZYnU?t=3584

Yes, it was Helena. Not a Benjamin Boyce video, this is with some religious guy, who asks great questions but take it with a handful of salt because he's religious, lol. At 59:44:

Interviewer: If I can ask, sexually, do you identify as lesbian, bisexual, or...?

Helena: Straight.

Interviewer: You do!? I thought you were bisexual. Or was that-- is that a whole nother podcast, or--

Helena: No, it's hard. I used to think I was bisexual, but, I realized, so-- I was in a pretty long relationship with a woman who also used to be a trans man, and like, we both got into a relationship when we were very confused, and like, in my head, a trans man was the same as like a biological man. So, like, we ended up becoming really close friends, and then, I guess just like, got confused... It was a really insane part of my life. So, this was, we met right after my mom and I had a huge fight, a huge falling out, where we ended up like, blocking each other and not talking to each other for like, six to twelve months...

... Probably six months before we ended up breaking up, I started realizing that like, Oh shit, I'm not attracted to women, this is not working, this is not gonna happen, this is really unhealthy, the only reason we're-- together like this, is because we kind of bonded over these traumatic experiences that happened to us. And so I started realizing I was straight. And we eventually broke up. And then now that that's over, and I don't have that influencing me anymore, it's very clear that I got majorly confused, and I am... pretty much as straight as it comes.

Then they get into the causes of sexual orientation... the interviewer mentioned that he has "friends" in "ex-gay arenas" (edit) though he doesn't agree with it. Ugh. Helena's answer is that you can't change her sexual orientation, but that some women who have trauma might misinterpret the signals their bodies are giving them as sexual attraction, or sexual arousal.

Maybe I should make a post about this. Didn't mean this to get that long, haha.

edit: posted https://saidit.net/s/LGBDropTheT/comments/8dy6/former_mod_of_rdetrans_was_majorly_confused/

[–]serf_n_terfStraight Ally - Surf’s up! 🏄‍♀️ 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Youth shouldn’t have to worry about this shit. Way to overcomplicate things when life is already a rollercoaster.