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[–][deleted] 31 insightful - 6 fun31 insightful - 5 fun32 insightful - 6 fun -  (7 children)

Les femmes trans sont des femmes. Les lesbiennes, on doit nos droits aux travailleur.e.s du sexe trans et racisé.e.s, vous l'oubliez trop souvent. Merci à elles de rendre cette pride plus safe.

Ugh, have the French forgotten their own history now to just rely on a bad revision of American history? Napoleon is the one who legalized same-sex attraction back in 1791 almost 200 fucking years before an American gay man and drag queen didn't start a riot.

Can we just stop importing American shit to Europe?

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Quite apart from nutters wielding road flares, what bothers me most about this is the absolute fucking butchering of the French language in the name of inclusivity.

racisé.e.s

travailleur.e.s

Not for the first time I find myself agreeing with the Académie on this issue:

La multiplication des marques orthographiques et syntaxiques qu’elle induit aboutit à une langue désunie, disparate dans son expression, créant une confusion qui confine à l’illisibilité. On voit mal quel est l’objectif poursuivi et comment il pourrait surmonter les obstacles pratiques d’écriture, de lecture – visuelle ou à voix haute – et de prononciation. Cela alourdirait la tâche des pédagogues. Cela compliquerait plus encore celle des lecteurs.

The multiplication of orthographic and syntactic marks that it ['inclusive' writing] creates results in a discordant language, disparate in its expression and confused to the point of illegibility. It is difficult to see what the point is and how it will overcome the practical difficulties of writing, reading - both visually and aloud - and pronunciation. This will increase the burden on teachers, not to mention readers.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I was about to say "Thank god gendered languages don't use bullshit 'inclusive' language"...

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

:l

[–]Destresse🇨🇵 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, this started because when we're kids we're taught "masculine wins over feminine" as a way to remember that an adjective will always be masculine as long as there is 1 male subject in the sentence. 100 female subjects and 1 male - > adjective will be male gendered.

I get the intention, but our language wasn't always like this. Before, it was which noun was last that "won" the adjective. A man and a woman are.... - > female gendered adjective. A woman and a man are.... - > male gendered adjective. It would solve the issue if we went back to this. Plus it sounds better to the ear.

I'm not too fond of inclusive writing. It's a hassle. But it's the norm in left-leaning universities and feminist articles/blogs/writings. It hasn't caught on further than that though.

[–]ArthnoldManacatsaman🇬🇧🌳🟦 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wasn't aware of that. I think that proves to be a rather elegant solution.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It hasnt caught on because its a massive hassle and one of the requirements to use this bastardized form speech is to live in an ivory tower and huff your own farts via gas mask.