Indoctrination / DoublethinkWTF is wrong with people? How very dare they!

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[–][deleted] 39 insightful - 4 fun39 insightful - 3 fun40 insightful - 4 fun -  (12 children)

Ah, yes, it's the UK TERFs that caused this and not our innate sexual orientation. Always the TERFs.

Apparently 33% of people claiming to be gay/lesbian are lying about being gay/lesbian. Which isn't surprising considering how lesbian is supposed to encompass basically everyone on the planet at this point.

The 1 group that trans people refuse to pursue, bisexuals, is the only group that the majority is open to dating trans people. They're just shooting themselves in the foot by refusing bisexuals. But apparently that sweet, sweet validation is more important to them than having a partner that actually wants to be with them.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 30 insightful - 4 fun30 insightful - 3 fun31 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

I read about this study somewhere else. The 33% of gays and lesbians saying they would date a trans person were saying they would stay with their same sex partner if they transitioned (ie a lesbian would stay with her female partner who becomes a transman or a gay man would stay with his male partner who becomes a transwoman). They were also asked if they would go on a date with a same sex person who is trans, and 33% said yes. This confused the survey people, who called the gays and lesbians "incongruent" because they wouldn't date an opposite sex trans person. Almost zero percent, if I remember correct, would date "transbians" or trans gay men".

[–][deleted] 20 insightful - 3 fun20 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

That makes a lot more sense. Survey people are clearly biased. And also very, very stupid if they thought gay men and lesbians would date people of the opposite sex.

[–]GoValidateYourselfuseful lesbian 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes it's very biased. Like it's only "incongruent" if you are blinded by ideology. Otherwise it's so obvious!

[–]MarkJeffersonTight defenses and we draw the line 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is the problem with these increasingly woke surveys, studies, and the summaries of them like this. It's hard to get accurate information out of them anymore because of how biased by gender ideology the researchers/compilers are. It reminds me of the wikipedia entries on the Equality Act that deceptively show aspects of it having more public support than it really does by how disengeneously it's written about. Not to mention that video with the methodically flawed Tokyo trans athlete survey where the developing results were not even hidden from people actively being surveyed.

[–]Elvira95Viva la figa 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Also, bisexuals are significantly more than homosexuals. Dating wise the incels who decided to be trans could actually have not super bad chances to finding someone, but they're obsessed with lesbians to validate their ego.

[–][deleted] 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I just can't understand why anyone would want to date someone who didn't want to be with them. It makes no sense to me.

[–]lovelyspearmintLesbeing a lesbian 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's the thrill of the hunt and transgression. If this person accepts them, it boosts their ego because they feel they were the one to change this person.

[–]NiceDickBro 3 insightful - 8 fun3 insightful - 7 fun4 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

As a straight male lesbian I couldn’t agree more.

[–]GConly 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you check other more detailed surveys: the heterosexual men are somewhat okay with transmen, lesbians are fairly okay with transmen. Gay men less okay with transwomen, really not okay with trans men.

Hetero women were low grade okay with transwomen but not at all interested in transmen. Heterosexual men were also mostly disinterested in transwomen.

So basically as long as your genitals matched that person's sexual orientation you were a lot more in luck, with lesbians being more open to transmen than any other group was to any other trans.

[–][deleted] 19 insightful - 7 fun19 insightful - 6 fun20 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Such a weird concept.

Homosexuals want to be with the same sex, and heterosexuals want to be with the opposite sex.

WTF OMG WHAT IS HAPPENING?!?!?!?

[–]bolla_top 19 insightful - 7 fun19 insightful - 6 fun20 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Those numbers drop to 0 once they learn the reality of neo-vaginas and whatever the fake dicks are called.

[–][deleted] 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These numbers are looser than the last study I read (we've probably all seen it) that very few people want to date trans.

Trans people: Look. Your pool is smaller. Such is life. Irrespective of etiology, ideology, etc. you've been dealt a hand, now you have to play it. This is the case for homosexual people as well--a smaller pool. But you don't see them taking to twitter and lamenting over it. Shaming people, demanding sex, having a fit, etc. Get a grip.

[–]Hannibalboy93 11 insightful - 7 fun11 insightful - 6 fun12 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH "THEYS" tears make me happy, did i get the pronoun right??? XD

[–]Rosefield 10 insightful - 9 fun10 insightful - 8 fun11 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

Cope, seethe, dilate

[–]Socialjustus 11 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

HOW DARE YOU NOT DATE ME!!!

Cried the incel.

[–]spanishprofanity 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Methodology: Total unweighted sample size was 3,721 US adults ages 18+. The responding sample is weighted to the profile of the sample definition to provide a representative reporting sample. Interviews were conducted online between May 28-31, 2019.

So this survey had more participants and they were from the US. The other study was mostly Canadians. They were also done almost a year apart. I find it strange that the Americans were more likely to consider a trans person by a significant amount than the Canadians.

[–][deleted] 19 insightful - 6 fun19 insightful - 5 fun20 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

That survey also has trans woman and trans man split rather than just trans. The result of lesbians being more willing to date trans men than trans women is pretty funny and goes against the idea that sexuality is based on gender identity. Really want to see how TRAs try to rationalize that.

[–]emptiedriver 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is a confusing study. It says "of your preferred gender" who is transgender, so does that mean if you're a lesbian would you date a trans man? Or is it asking if you'd date a transbian? Given that the numbers are so similar between whether you're okay with GNC and whether you're okay with trans, it seems like many may have just thought that was basically the same thing.

[–]JulienMayfair 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When your big civil rights issue is who will or won't date you, that just shows that you don't really have any serious civil rights problems.

Also, if you break it down further, only ~13% of gay men are open to dating trans women. I've seen two different polls that both gave similar figures.

[–]loveSloaneSuperDuperBi 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Just wait until they realize the 33% willing to date them would still be considered transphobic to them…

[–]Rage-Xion 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is that Aria Blooms a trans identified person.

[–]chazzstrong 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You ever ponder if one day, they'll realize nobody fucking likes them and there's nothing they can do to change that?
It's like that trope from the 80s with the pushy boy who keeps getting shot down by the girl he likes but he won't take 'no' for an answer.