I will say that while plenty of say bad MTF are influenced by misogynistic beliefs plenty are also misandristic. There are a lot of issues I think especially boys confront early on that don't give them proper role models from a young age and where they can't feel secure in themselves as men. In the more progressive wings being a straight dude can be seen as a sin. Way too many people here just want to argue all these issues are just down to misogyny.

Even for FTMs they just argue it's body hatred caused by misogynistic views regarding woman's bodies and while true for some they ignore how fetishtic those communities can be no different than MTFs. They also do ignore many guys try to transition also partially due to body hate or insecurity.

Completely agree. I worry a lot that mainstream media outlets, when they do report on an alternate take from the trans lobby's creed, do not incorporate these details. The picture is more nuanced than just "girls hate themselves so they transition, okay we're done we've solved the transgender debate!!"